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Welcome back to the Waist Away podcast! We have another special episode for you this week. Chantel was a guest on the Million Pound Mission with Adam Schaeuble and she rocked it! She shared her struggles with weight loss, talked about getting the results she wanted with Intermittent Fasting, and the health benefits of using CBD and essential oils. Enjoy!

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Adam:              All right Chantel. Welcome to the Million Pound Mission Podcast. How are you doing today my friend?

Chantel:            I’m so good.

Adam:              I’ve a suspicion that this is going to be a really high energy episode. I’ve listened to your show and I know that you bring the energy and you have a good time. And I enjoy bringing the energy and having a good time as well. So, I want to kick it off and just have you tell us the story about how you discovered intermittent fasting. How you reclaimed your health through these methods that you discovered and how that’s impacted you so far.

Chantel:            Yeah. So I basically have always gained 10 lbs, lost 10 lbs, gained 30 lbs, lost 30 lbs. Just always on this roller coaster of gaining, losing, gaining, losing. And I finally decided to just start interviewing people who have been thin their whole life and they’ve never had a problem with food. I just interviewed over 1000 women and I said, “Hey what did you do? What did you eat? Breakfast, lunch, dinner? What did you do?” And then I just started reading the Bible. And I read every Bible verse about weight loss and food and that’s what kind of got me into I lost 40 lbs and I’ve kept it off and haven’t regained it.

Adam:              Nice. Now, you have a podcast where you focus on a lot, it’s general health. It’s about health optimization but you focus a lot on intermittent fasting and that seemed to be a tool that’s been really helpful to you. What would you say are some of the foundational principles of being effective with intermittent fasting?

Chantel:            You know how all these trainers, I think a lot of them are changing now, but they used to be like, “Listen, you need to eat seven small meals every two hours, a little bit of chicken, a little bit of broccoli, a little bit of sweet potato. You’ve got to portion it out.” All of that stuff makes you obsessive compulsive. And it’s like, I don’t want to be obsessive compulsive. I want to be a naturally thin eater that eats when I’m hungry. I stop when I’m full and I eat what my body is telling me to eat, and I’m eating whole foods and not tons of processed foods and junk.

Chantel:            And so I just started interviewing these ladies and saying, “What do you do?” And that’s what created my book, “Waste Away, The Chantel Ray Way.”

Adam:              “Waste Away The Chantel Ray Way.” If you ever need voice over work, just hit me up Chantel.

Chantel:            I know you’re really good at it.

Adam:              I play around with the voice work. So, you mentioned being able to discover when you’re truly hungry. I feel like this is a huge issue for people. I see my children. I have young children, and I see them connecting like, I sit down and watch TV and I eat, instead of I eat when I’m hungry. So what are some of the steps that you took to be a little bit more mindful and be present with your hunger signals?

Chantel:            In my book I have something called the hunger scale and zero is hamster hungry. I had a friend when I was younger, this is a really disgusting story, but, one time my friend, she left her hamster, and the hamster had babies. She forgot to give food to the babies, and she had gone on vacation for a week. And I guess the babies died. And then the hamster ate the babies. So when she got home, she was like, “Where’s the babies?” So anyway, that’s what we call hamster hungry. That means, you are just ravenous. So we tell people you don’t want to really get to that point. But you do want to get to the point that you are really truly hungry or that your stomach is growling. A lot of times, so, for me, I used to eat for any reason. It didn’t matter if I was hungry or not. If I was happy, I was eating. If I was sad, I was eating. If there was a party, or, you know, someone would bring in donuts, I was eating. It didn’t matter. So really just getting to that place of going, “Is my stomach growling? Am I truly hungry?” And what fasting does, is it teaches you to learn how to be hungry. Not these crazy, two meal, I’m going to have two meals a day and this, that and the other.

Adam:              So, your general game plan when you’re fasting, I hear a lot and I get a lot of questions about the fasting window itself and defining that, and should I be doing 4 hours, 8 hours, 10 hours, 12 hours. So do you define your window just by when you’re hungry or do you actually have certain hours you’re trying to consume food within?

Chantel:            For me, I try to eat in about a six to eight hour window. And it just really depends on my hunger scale, if I’m hungry or not. A lot of people are like, “Fasting, that’s not good for you.” Blah, blah, blah. Or, “My doctor says I shouldn’t fast.” And I go, “The bible talks about fasting over 70 times. The bible is our owner’s manual for life. And so if God told us to fast, it’s not bad for you. And there are studies after studies after studies of how fasting heals your body.” For me, usually I start my first meal around 12:00 and I end around 6:00. Or, if I’m doing an eight-hour window, it will be from 12:00 to 8:00. If you’re the type that likes to drink wine, you can do 1:00 to 9:00. Some of my skinniest, skinniest friends, I mean they are just … they don’t start eating until like 2:00 and they go from 2:00 to 9:00 is about their window.

Adam:              Is that something that you stress out about? Like I have to be consistent with that?

Chantel:            No.

Adam:              Okay.

Chantel:            No, I’m not sure I stress about it, I just kind of have that in a habit. And that’s, again, if you’re starting to stress about it and making, like the whole thing is, no one should be obsessive compulsive, but at the same time, honestly, more than two meals a day, you don’t need it. It’s just too much food. I’m eating a lunch. I’m eating a medium-sized lunch and I’m eating a small dinner. But what I also say is, there’s times, let’s say I go out to lunch and I didn’t mean to, but I ate more than I should have and I ate a really big lunch, then that might be the only thing I ate for the day. Why? Because I’m not hungry for dinner. Because you ate such a big lunch, you just aren’t, you won’t be hungry. So get out of this mindset that you’re thinking, “Oh, I’ve got to eat dinner because it’s 6:00, or, I have to eat dinner with my family.” There’s tons of times I sit with my family at dinner. I watch them eat and I don’t eat. Why? Because I’m not physical hungry. If my body’s not hungry, why do you want to eat?

Adam:              That’s a huge point. I talk about that a lot on the show where people tend to obsess and they really get stressed out about the dynamic of that family dinner and that relationship with, they think everybody should be eating the same thing. Or, if their husband is eating something that they should be eating the same thing or that the husband is upset if the wife or the spouse … there’s all this bickering and judgment back and forth. I’m like, you sit down to connect. It’s not about what you put in your mouth or what I put in my mouth. It’s about being together. So everybody try to do their own thing and be healthy in their own way. But I think we need to leave the judgment off the dinner table. You can pass the judgment plate, right?

Chantel:            Yeah. A perfect example that happened to me, sometimes, like one morning I woke up and it was around 9:00 and I was just really hungry. I was like, I’m eating something because I’m ravenously hungry right now. I had totally forgot that I had a lunch that day at 11:30. So it was a big group of my girlfriends, we all had lunch. All my friends are thin. We were sitting there and I was like, “I’m not eating.” And they weren’t, see my friends weren’t like, “Oh, why aren’t you eating.” Like, “Come on just have something. Have a little something.” They looked at me and I was like, “I ate at 9:30.” And they were all like, “What? You ate at 9:30.” But I was like, “Yeah, I’m just not hungry.” But none of them said, “Oh, come on. Just have a little something.” Blah, blah, blah. Keep doing that. Why? Because they are my true friends and they know I eat when I’m hungry. I stop when I’m full and I’m not going to eat just to sit down. I’m connecting with you and guess what? Because I’m not stuffing my face, I actually can talk more and can connect with you.

Adam:              Yeah, I love that and I feel the exact same way. I feel like, again, people that are on that weight loss journey, that transformation journey. They get some of those friend groups that do the opposite of what you just described and they’re out there trying to force feed them and make them feel guilty. But a lot of it is just that person’s own stuff coming out. Stuff that they’re not willing to deal with yet. And they’re feeling that owned guilt on themselves and they are just projecting that on you. So that’s always a bad deal. In that situation, I feel like communication is important. Sometimes you set the record straight and sometimes it creates little friend fights. But we can get over that eventually.

Adam:              So, you mentioned that you have your schedule, but I also know that you are an entrepreneur. You’re super busy. You’re a real estate professional. You’ve got different podcasts going on. So, what are some tips for people that want to incorporate intermittent fasting but they have kind of a crazy schedule? I feel like it’s important.

Chantel:            The thing is, with intermittent fasting, it’s like, are you kidding me? That is the best thing for your schedule. Because think about it. If you have one of these trainers that are like, “Yes. You need to pre-package your meal. You need to do chicken and broccoli. It’s got to be four ounces. You’ve got to measure it out. Now we have to have three almonds.” That takes up more time. If you’re only eating one meal a day, do you know that is like, talk about so much time off your plate. So, it actually, if you’re worried about your time, this actually saves time because it’s cutting out … pretty much you’re eating one meal a day or two meals a day and not planning all these extra snacks and meals. So, it definitely saves time if you’re busy. For me, it’s fantastic. The key is, that you want to eat what you really want. One of the things that I talk about in my book is about my assistant. We went out and we got a pizza one time, and I got a pizza. And I ate two small slices of pizza and I was full and I was done.

Chantel:            And then she got a grilled chicken salad that was huge. When she was done she goes, “This salad just didn’t cut it. I was trying to be healthy. Can I have the rest of your pizza?” And I was like, “Yeah, sure.” But if you look at how many calories she just ate. She ate this huge grilled chicken salad that had tons of dressing all over it. She probably had 900 calories worth of salad thinking she was “good”, then ended up eating my pizza. So the difference is now my health is just so, so important to me. I’m eating cleaner and cleaner. But how I originally lost the weight, I truly ate, whatever I want. I had some thyroid issues, some autoimmune issues. So now my eating is very, very clean now. But again, I still eat what I want. So now if I want a pizza, I might have a cauliflower pizza crust with dairy-free cheese on it. But I’m still eating what I want but I’m choosing different choices, because my health is so, so important to me. And I know that for me to be able to work at my peak performance, my diet really consists of tons of vegetables, tons of fruits and lean meats.

Adam:              I think that’s a great tip with intermittent fasting in general. I’m big on only changing one variable at a time. I want to know what works. It drives me nuts that somebody that tries to advise other people to get healthy, they’ll change five different things. They’ll add a new workout. They’ll do intermittent fasting and keto and sauna sessions. They get a result. And what worked? I don’t know what worked, so we have to keep doing it all. So, I love the idea that you kind of had a eating style, you had foods that you ate. And you just added intermittent fasting and that produced an amazing result. That was a one variable shift result. Then, you started to clean up the food that you were consuming, now that you’ve established that as the new normal with intermittent fasting and you’re seeing results again.

Adam:              And I feel like especially this time of year. We’re talking in January and people are like, “Let’s do it all. I got my new bike and I got this thing online and my thigh master going on.” And all these different things. But I’m really big on just chilling out and let’s see what actually works one variable shift at a time.

Adam:              Now, you mentioned some of the results that you were seeing. What are some of the other really cool results? You talked to, you said, over 1000 people. When people are incorporating intermittent fasting, what types of results or surprising things are you seeing that might get people fired up about it?

Chantel:            So we’ve had tons of people who since they’ve been doing intermittent fasting they were on thyroid medicine and then they’ve completely, because fasting heals your body, they’ve had great results with, like doing, even CBD oil has been a big thing for me. If you go to my webpage and go to But, as far as getting, doing some things with essential oils and that sort of thing. But I think the main thing is, how do I feel when I eat this? So that’s a big thing for me. It’s just unbelievable. People don’t realize the power that fasting has on healing your body. We’ve had tons of people who were taking this medicine, this medicine, this medicine and this medicine because they were eating from 5:00 a.m. until 12:00, just eat, eat, eat, eat and you don’t realize how much your body takes to digest your food. Think about the amount of effort that it takes to digest that food. So when you’re not just eating your food and you’re fasting, it’s able to go to your other cells in your body and just rejuvenate different parts of your body and heal your body.

Adam:              One of the things I’ve really noticed since I’ve incorporated intermittent fasting, is my sleep is a lot better, just because of the whole digestion thing. I make sure I’ve got a couple of hours of space between last meal and when I go to bed. And that just seems to make all the differenc.e and then, my body, like you said, isn’t diverting all that energy towards digesting food all day long. I sleep really, really well. I notice I dream. Those vivid dreams, deep sleep, when you get those dreams that you actually remember when you wake up in the morning. That’s always a sign to me, like okay, that was a solid night of sleep.

Adam:              Now, you mentioned the oils. You’ve got a lot going on. You seem to, like we mentioned a second ago. You’ve kicked things up a notch with your overall health, your longevity focus. So, what other things are you diving into now that you’ve established the passion for intermittent fasting. We have essential oils and things like that. What else are you diving into?

Chantel:            A lot of people ask me about drinking, like drinking their calories in their … and that’s why, so like, remember when I told you, for whatever reason, I’m not a big wine drinker. But every one of my friends are like wine, wine. They just love their win at night. That’s a big deal for them. So, I started researching and I was like, do you know that the FDA does not regulate wine at all? That means that there could be 20 other chemicals and different things in your wine. They could put whatever they want in there. There’s no regulations. They don’t have to put what’s in that wine. So everyone just thinks, oh, wine is just grapes. No it’s not. And you don’t even know what’s in there. So even some of these organic wines. Their grapes are certified organic but then the process and all the chemicals that they add to it. So one of my friends said to me, I said, “I don’t really drink wine because when I drink even a half a glass, I wake up the next day, I have a headache. I don’t feel good. I just don’t like it.”

Chantel:            So she said, “Okay. I want you to try this one glass of wine and wake up the next morning and you’re not going to have a headache.” And she was like, “I promise.” And I woke up the next day and I felt like a million bucks. And so, this wine has 75 tests that literally test to make sure there’s no chemicals. The sulfites in the wine, there’s no added sulfites. That’s why when you drink this wine, the reason why you have such a bad headache is all the added sulfites. Some of these wines have 300 sulfites in there. So you want to make sure that the wine that you’re drinking … so if you go to, that will give you the link to the wine that I suggest that you buy because it’s fantastic. But still, if you’re going to drink wine, you need to kind of count that in your eating window, like that one girlfriend. The one girlfriend that I did so much interviewing on, she doesn’t even, these people don’t know they’re doing intermittent fasting. That’s the funny part.

Chantel:            They don’t even know they’re doing intermittent fasting. I just say like, “Okay, well what time do you start eating?” She was like, “Well, you know what? I’m just not a morning person. I usually have coffee in the morning and I don’t eat anything and I have my first snack around 1:00 or 2:00. But she drinks, my one friend that’s super skinny, she probably has at least one glass of wine every night, sometimes two. Or most nights she does. Maybe not every night. But like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday she’s having wine with her meal. But she’s drinking clean wine. So you want to count whatever is a caloric drink, is within your eating window.

Adam:              Eating window. That brings up a good point. This is another thing I get a lot of questions about and people stress out about is, “Adam, what liquids are approved outside of my eating window?” So you establish an eating window. Is it okay to have coffee? Some people do the fat fast. And I’m like, well, if you’re putting calories into our body technically that’s not fasting. But what do you recommend or what do you see people having success with outside of the eating window?

Chantel:            With the eating window, I do have, I’m not a huge coffee drinker but sometimes I’ll have, if I’m like, okay, I’ve got to really get myself together this morning, I’ll have a cup of coffee and I’ll have a little bit of nondairy creamer in it and I don’t stress out about that. It’s a little bit of nondairy creamer. It’s probably 30 calories. So anything that’s like 30 calories or less, it’s not going to impact you a huge amount so I don’t stress about it. But if you’re not losing weight, then I would say well then just switch to black coffee. The best way to do it … the whole point is, is that you don’t want to put glycogen into your body. So, if you don’t have any glycogen stores and you don’t have any energy stores, your body is then going to use your fat for fuel. If it has that sugar in your body, it’s going to use that first.

Chantel:            My favorite analogy that I say is, “If you had $100 sitting in your pocket right now, right? And then let’s say you had $100 in your bank account and you went to the store and wanted to buy something for $50, you’re not going to go the bank to use that $100 when you’ve got your $100 sitting in your pocket. That’s exactly what your body does. It’s already got that $100 in your pocket. It’s going to use that. So, you want it to go all the way to the bank to get that money and the only way you’re going to go all the way to the bank to get that $100 is if you have zero dollars in your pocket. They you’re like, look, I’ve got to buy this. I’ve got to go to the bank.

Adam:              Yeah. There’s an analogy. I love that analogy. I’m going to start using that, so I’ll give you a shout out every time I use that, don’t worry. I’ll trademark it, Chantel Ray said. There’s another analogy. I love Mark Sisson and his stuff, and he talks about in his latest book about the ketogenic diet, he talks about shopping local. As in, from your butt. He’s like, that’s where your body wants to shop for fat. It’s not from the supermarket. It wants to shop from your butt and use that to burn for clean energy. But I like your analogy better. So, Sisson is out. Chantel is in.

Chantel:            Awesome. One of the things that Mark Sisson said, and I heard him say this after I read the book, otherwise, I would’ve quoted him to say it, but one of my principles in my book is eat the best first. That’s principle number five and number six is, eat what I really want. And he said something I can’t even remember what it was. But he said something like, “I don’t put anything in my mouth that I don’t absolutely love, love, love.” He’s like, and something, I’m probably messing all this up, but it’s something like, if I don’t really, really like it, I’m not going to eat it. And that’s exactly what I say. I say, eat what you … everything I put in my mouth, I make sure that I absolutely love it, like it tastes amazing. I think I should, I’m getting ready to write my second edition of my book.

Adam:              Nice.

Chantel:            Because I feel like I’ve learned some more things. But I really should call that chapter, “Be a Food Snob.” Like that’s how they are. People who are then, they’re like a food snob. People who are overweight, they’re like, “I don’t care. Sure I’ll eat that. Sure, I’ll eat that.” If it’s not amazing at a level five. So I have some stars that I have. And I say, okay. A level five, five stars is like a party in your mouth. You eat that bite and you’re like, oh my gosh. But then when you take another bite, it’s not as good. And then you take the next bite and it’s not as good. Once it starts getting to be, that’s just okay, I’m pushing it away and I’m not going to eat anymore.

Adam:              That makes sense. One of the things I love about the way you present all this, is that you’re very intuitive with what you’re doing. You seem very mindful, very tuned in. Is that something you had to develop? Because I know that’s something that people really struggle with Chantel. So is that how you’ve always been? Or is that something you’ve kind of brought along as you’ve been on this journey?

Chantel:            One of the things that I think is still a little bit of a struggle for me, even now, is this. Is that, so sometimes when I’m eating so, so clean. Like let’s say I have this salad that’s absolutely amazing. I went to this restaurant called True Food. Have you ever heard of it?

Adam:              No, but it sounds good. I’m ready to go.

Chantel:            It was to die for. I was sitting there eating it and I felt like I ate a tiny bit more than I should have. The thoughts I was having in my head was like, I don’t have a true … these are the kinds of things that go into your head. I don’t have a True Food in Virginia Beach. I’ll never be able to get this salad again. This is like the most amazing salad I’ve ever had. Those kind of things that you have to battel against in your mind. For me, for my health, where I am right now in my health, I have to make sure that I’m eating cleaner than the average person. So in my book I say, if your health is great. If you go in, your doctor, you feel like a million bucks, then my rule of thumb is, 80% eat kind of whatever, 80% you’re eating clean foods. Fruits, vegetables, lean meats. And then 20% you’re eating whatever you want. Like, if you want a brownie, eat a bit of a brownie. If you want chips, eat chips. So now, because my health isn’t where I want it to be, I still eat chips but I have chips that have no … I’m not eating Lay’s sour cream and onion chips. I’m eating kettle cooked plain chips with fresh avocado on top. So it’s just like, I’m just tweaking things now to where I’m still eating whatever I want.

Chantel:            If I want a cookie, oh my gosh. I made the most amazing cookies that are dairy-free, gluten-free, paleo. If you go to, by the time this show airs, I’ll have it on there.

Adam:              Nice.

Chantel:            It is the best cookie I’ve ever had. But it’s as clean as it can be, right? So, that’s my next level that I’m taking it. Is that, I’m still eating what I want. If I want a cookie, I’m eating it. But I’m just making sure that cookie is just the best quality it possibly can be for my body.

Adam:              That makes sense. A lot of people will stress out, like, if I make a cookie I’m going to eat all of the cookies. But again, with your method of being intuitive and when that party in the mouth starts to die down, then it’s time to go home. We push away and we put the cookies away. So are you pretty into cooking? Do you get pretty fired up to … I hate to use the word meal prep, but that’s kind of the term.

Chantel:            Yes. Honestly, I don’t enjoy cooking. I don’t love it. But I’m actually really good at it. I’ve gotten to be … I joke around because I’m like, yeah, my name’s Chantel Ray but today just call me Rachel Ray because I’m just so good at cooking. So, I don’t love it but I do have a lot of help. So, the nice thing is, I have everyone else do all my food prep. So I have an assistant that chops the onions and does this and gets everything together. And then all I do is go … and then do it. That part is hard. But again, my first suggestion with people, depending on where they are, my first suggestion is, first start with intermittent fasting. Get your window down and don’t obsess about what you’re eating at all. Just get that window down. Eat when you’re hungry. Stop when you’re full. And shorten that window. The second step would then be going, okay, I’m going to try to make my diet where 80% of what I’m eating is real foods, whole foods. And then 20% if I want a brownie, eat a brownie.

Chantel:            And then tons of people I know get super skinny and stay there and they’re great. Only do I recommend taking it to where you’re like 95% eating on the clean scale is if you’ve got health issues. If your thyroid’s not functioning. If you’ve got autoimmune issues. You’ve got all other kind of physical ailments, then you might get to where I am right now which is, I’m more on the 95% of what I’m eating is super, super clean. I’m basically not eating any grains. I’m not eating any dairy, only because I feel terrible when I eat it. So, I’m not suggesting that for people, but unfortunately where my gut health is, I don’t do well when I eat it. They key is not to deprive. As soon as you feel deprived, you will end up on a binge. And that is the key thing you have to say to yourself. I am not depriving myself. So now when I eat this cookie that I love, I go, I’m not depriving myself at all. I’m feeling like a million bucks and I’m eating the cookie that I want to eat.

Adam:              That’s awesome. So, it seems like right now you’re kind of on fire with your health journey. I talk a lot about your why versus all the why not’s. And your why has to be bigger than the sum of the all the why not’s that could pop up and disrupt your transformation journey. So, what is that next level goal and what’s the why behind it that’s really keeping you engaged and fired up right now?

Chantel:            My biggest thing is, I really want to improve people’s health and how they feel about themselves. The thing is, when you feel fat, you don’t want to go in. You’re like oh, I don’t went to go there. I don’t feel good. I don’t feel good about myself. And so it’s really just about getting yourself to where you feel like a million bucks, you look like a million bucks. I feel like I’ve helped myself do that and so I want to help other people do that as well.

Adam:              That’s awesome. When was the first time that you got some feedback? Because I know as a podcaster, you get people that reach back out to you and say, “Oh I love your show and this is how it’s helped me.” When was the first time that you got some feedback like that and you realized that you were making an impact? From the book or from the podcast. What was that like?

Chantel:            We get emails. We have an email address that’s and people, for our podcast, we say, hey if you have a question, we’ll answer it. So we get tons of emails over and over. One of the things that’s very important with intermittent fasting and I say this in my book, I did not lose any weight for three weeks. Three weeks. And then all of a sudden I lost six pounds. So it was like week one nothing. Week two nothing. Week three nothing. And after the third week I lost six pounds. What we call it, it’s called the whoosh effect. Where it’s like, all of a sudden it’s like whoosh, the weight just drops off. I guess my thing is, if you try it and after a week you go this is not working for me, just stick with it. Because what intermittent fasting also does is it builds muscle. So, you’re going to tell that you’re losing weight in your clothes. You feel thinner but you might not see those changes immediately on the scale.

Adam:              Chantel I think we just found a title for this episode, “The Whoosh Effect with Chantel.”

Chantel:            Yes, that’s right. You know, my trainer, I have to send you a picture of him. I have a personal trainer. His name is Craig. And when I tell you, his body is completely chiseled. We have to put that in the show notes. When I saw chiseled, you know like how you look on the magazines with the thing, you know, that you see all the people on there just chiseled. Well those people don’t look like that walking around. They really, that last week of the show … the difference with this guy is, he looks like that all the time. He eats like that all the time. He’s just, he is the cleanest eater you’ll kind of ever meet.

Adam:              Nice.

Chantel:            But anyway he went to the doctor and he said that there was a doctor that was 4’8″. His doctor was really short and really chunky. And she looks at him and she said, “Well, we looked at your BMI and according to your BMI, you are obese.” And he was like, “Okay.” And she was like, “Now I would like to suggest that you walk two times a day.” And she’s giving him all this advice. And he’s just sitting there like honey are you kidding me right now? He’s like, I didn’t say anything. I just smiled and nodded my head. But it’s like, this is the kind of stuff that’s going on right now. He’s thinking, according to the test, his BMI, he’s obese. That’s ridiculous. He’s shredded, chiseled, because muscle weighs so much more than fat.

Adam:              I got a less than preferred insurance rate because I’m 6’3″ and I weigh 220 lbs. And they’re like, obese. And I’m like, oh, you should have seen me 10 years ago when I weighed 327 lbs. The advice that the medical professionals are giving, it’s just like blind advice. As if that doctor couldn’t look at your trainer and see-

Chantel:            He’s chiseled. He was doing one of those things. He said, and I said, “Well, did she see you? Was your shirt off?” He was like, “Well, it was half off.” He’s like, “Because it was one of those, gowns, kyou know that you put your hands in and the whole back is open.” If you looked at his back, it’s like just shredded. And she’s sitting there going, “Well, I would like to suggest you walk twice a week.”

Adam:              How about I do a thousand push ups instead, doc. Oh man. It gets frustrating. But I do feel like, to give our medical professional community a shout, I feel like the tide is turning a little bit. More people are coming on board. You hear a lot of doctors talking about ketogenic diet, intermittent fasting, higher fat, lower carb type thing. So it is coming around. I feel good about the momentum that’s shifting. But we still have some of those people that are just blind to it and that always sucks. Because we get less than preferred insurance rates. Dang it. Chantel, I want to make sure that my audience can get connected with you. We mentioned you have a couple of podcasts. You’ve got a great website. The website is awesome. Just a ton of free resources. So, mention that one more time. What’s the best way to get connected to you and your information?

Chantel:            Yeah, it’s just That’s C-H-A-N-T-E-L R-A-Y,

Adam:              Excellent. Well, Chantel, I like to leave my audience with some action, all right. You’ve inspired them. We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, we’ve been inspired. Let’s say somebody is out there that was just like you before you started to gain some momentum. That person that’s gaining weight, losing weight. Back and forth, back and forth. Feeling frustrated, kind of feeling lost. What’s one action step they could take in the next 24-48 hours to start to gain some traction and get some momentum going?

Chantel:            The people that we’ve seen that have the best results, believe it or not, are people that have gone and gotten my audiobook on Audible and listened to the audiobook like three and four times. And they just listen to, you know, every day, in the morning, they’re listening to 10-15 minutes. So they’re getting their mind right. They’re getting back on track. They’re getting motivated. And every day, they’re listening to it. And we have people who now they are like, I just, every day I listen to the podcast, I listen to the book and I just do it for 15 minutes a day because it’s that reminder of hey, I do want to wait until I’m truly hungry before I’m eating. And it’s just putting that in your mind. Reading the book one time is not going to do it. You’ve got to be listening to it. You want to ingest it, you want it to be like where you’re constantly reminded of all of those principles. And these principles are truly how thin people, who have naturally been thin their whole life, how they eat.

Adam:              Amazing. Well, Chantel, I know you’re super busy. I was really excited to get connected. I appreciate your time. I appreciate that energy. And I appreciate you adding some of that special Chantel Ray mojo to the Million Pound Mission Podcast today.

Chantel:            Well, it’s been a blast and I really appreciate you having me on.


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