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The Habits of a Thin Eater

Chantel: Welcome to the Chantel Ray Way, the inspirational way to lose weight for life through intermittent fasting.

 

Good afternoon, we’re here with another episode of Waist Away the Chantel Ray Way and we’re so excited, I’ve got Chris Sykes here and I have another guest with me [Christie Marshiter 00:00:17]. Christie, welcome.

 

Christie: Thank you.

 

Chantel: We’re so glad you’re here. And Christie is one of the people that I interview all the time and I’m constantly like- what did you eat today, what did you have for breakfast, what’d you have for lunch, what’d you have for dinner.

 

And I literally like, while she’s eating, I’m like glaring at her watching every move I make. And so we saved some questions that people have asked over the last few weeks. Some of you guys have asked these questions and I know you’re kind of like, well why aren’t they answering them? Because we saved them for today, because I knew you were going to be here.

 

So don’t worry, even if you send in your question from like a couple of weeks ago and we don’t answer it, it doesn’t mean we’re not going to. We try to answer every single one but sometimes it might be delayed. So let’s get right into it. Chris, so glad to have you as always.

 

Chris Sykes: Hello ladies.

 

Chantel: Looking at you with the bright red on today.

 

Chris Sykes: Think I’d switch it up a little bit. Since you all left me out of the group chat, I didn’t know about the all black.

 

Chantel: Well you know I’m always going to wear all black, so that’s kind of a given. Okay so let’s chime in right into the first question.

 

This first question says, it’s from Erica in Virginia Beach, it says, “Help, I have a real problem with eating fast. Sometimes I finish my plate and I look around the table and everyone else still has at least a half of a plate left. Do you have any advice for eating slow?”

 

Christie: Okay so this is a very typical Chantel Ray thing to do because she will sit down and inhale her food and the rest of us are still just picking up our forks to get started.

 

Chantel: Yes.

 

Christie: So this is a very good question for us. So eating slow, I eat, and in general this is just how I do it. When I’m hungry, I eat. When I’m not hungry, I don’t eat.

 

[crosstalk 00:02:02].

 

Chris Sykes: So complicated, it’s so complicated right here.

 

Christie: But…I mean it’s like Chantel, the very first I met Chantel, she’s asked me, she’s like-

 

Chantel: This is why I love Chris, because he really brings it out.

 

Chris Sykes: That’s complicated. We gonna need a pie chart or something for that one, right there.

 

Christie: Chantel always is asking though, like what is the secret.

 

Chantel: Ya’ll are going to make me pee my pants today.

 

Christie: There’s absolutely no secret to how I eat. It’s just when you’re hungry, you eat. When I’m out with my friends, it’s a social experience for me. So I’m eating and talking, eating and talking. And I’m not really concentrating on the food or how much I’ve had. It’s just, my body tells me when I’m not hungry anymore. So, as far as eating slow, when you’re out with friends you’re enjoying the moment, you’re enjoying the experience, and it’s a little different than maybe if you’re grabbing a quick lunch at work and you only have five minutes to scarf something down. But in general that’s not how I do things.

 

Chantel: So do you have any tips for Erica? And me since this is an area that I really… everyone who knows me they know I talk fast, I do everything fast. It’s very, very hard for me. I would say the one thing that really does help me is literally to take my timer on my iPhone and go, okay, I’m going to eat this. I’m going to take 15 minutes. Because I literally could eat in about three minutes. So, like almost doubling the amount of time. So literally just saying, okay, I’m going to set a timer on my phone, put it in here and go, look, I have to take up a good 12 minutes to be able to eat my food. And, boom, I just set the timer on, and go, I’ve got to really take my time to do this.

 

Christie: I mean, I honestly, Chantal, I think that might be like a good behavioral way to, kind of, train yourself to start eating slower. But really if you’re enjoying the food, and enjoying the experience and enjoying your company, I think naturally you’ll just start to eat slower. You have to savor those moments that you have with your friends and your family. Like when you have family dinner. And you’re sitting around, you’re talking to Kyle, or talking to Ryan, you’re enjoying that. You’re not necessarily thinking about how fast you’re shoveling it in. You have to calm down and relax, and feel the food.

 

Chris Sykes: But one thing is, is she trying to eat slower to eat less? Or is she just…

 

Chantel: Well, yeah, I believe 100%, if you eat slower you’re going to eat less.

 

Chris Sykes: You eat less. But I would do the same thing. If she’s just trying to eat less, like she’s eating fast, just take that little bit of edge off your hunger. You know, you gotta talk about drinking water. Or having a light… like a tiny little snack. Like a half of, not say candy bar, but half a snack or something like that before you go out to lunch. So you can take that little bit of edge off, so you’re not like, you know, you starving. You see a pizza in front of you, you eat like four slices real quick. But if you’re just semi-hungry, like it’s time to eat, you know, it’s dinner-time. But you’re not starving, you’ll kind of eat it and savor the taste and everything. So I would say take a little bit off.

 

Chantel: Well one thing that does help me is if I do have an appetizer. Like if I order, like, a cup of soup or like a side salad or something to have beginning. Because then I eat that, and then I’ve got to wait another, you know, 10 or 15 minutes. So then I filled up on that. So then by the time the food comes, I’m not so crazy. So, sometimes having an appetizer does help things.

 

Christie: You know what though, sometimes, and I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned this to you before but, sometimes I’ll go out for a late dinner. Like 8:00, 8:30 or 9:00 even. And I can’t wait that long for dinner. So I will, before I leave my house, have like a couple of almonds or something like that. So like a little healthy snack. Not a candy bar.

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah. Depends how you grew up, too. If you grew up with like eight brothers and sisters, you’re probably used to eating fast.

 

Christie: Oh, yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: You know, you’re used to battling for your food, so… [crosstalk 00:05:38]

 

Chantel: Do you eat fast?

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah, I do.

 

Chantel: Oh, really?

 

Chris Sykes: Tastes good. Like… put a kale salad in front of me though, I take my 15 minutes, though. But, put some lemon pepper wings or something in front of me, then yeah.

 

Chantel: Alright, Chris, why don’t you read the next question?

 

Chris Sykes: Alright. We got Jessie in Virginia Beach. He or she needs advice for making food selections when they’re at a restaurant. Today they went to a pizza restaurant and ordered a salad. It didn’t quite satisfy them, and they didn’t enjoy their meal at all. Sometimes I will stare the menu and debate between pasta and salad. Is it better to eat a small portion of pasta or a whole salad? How do you decide what to get when you go out to eat?

 

Chantel: Man, this is such a good question. This is one of my favorite questions because I feel like this is something that I really, really look at. Like, when I’m at a restaurant I say, you know, in my book I talk about the enjoyment scale. And I want to make sure that whatever I’m eating, I want it to be a four or a five on the enjoyment scale. Christie, what do you do?

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

I mean, I eat, again, it’s not rocket science. It depends on what I feel that day. So I have my favorite restaurant in Virginia Beach is an Italian restaurant. And nine times out of ten when I go there…

 

Chantel: Which one is it?

 

Christie: Il Giardino. Down on ocean front.

 

Chris Sykes: Free appetizers.

 

Chantel: Right? Focaccia bread…

 

Chris Sykes: Lasagna dinner or something.

 

Christie: Well, you know, when I’m feeling like I’m starving and I’m really hungry then I get a giant bowl of penne pasta with marinara sauce. And I throw a ton of cheese on it. I eat a ton of bread. I drink a ton of wine. And then I’m happy.

 

Chris Sykes: I would be happy, too.

 

Christie: But, every time I go there, though, that’s not what I want. Sometimes I want, like a salmon and zucchini noodles. Or a… so it really depends, again, how busy I’ve been that day, what I’ve eaten, if I’m hungry. And I just kind of listen to my body and I decide what my meal’s going to be.

 

Chris Sykes: Well, first off…

 

Chantel: And, I don’t think you… you don’t always get the pasta, do you?

 

Christie: Right. And also you have to remember I, 90% of the time, am a really clean, healthy eater. So pasta would be a cheat meal for me. Like, if I was to think like that. I’m never going to get like a hamburger and fries. Because that’s not the way I eat.

 

Chris Sykes: Well first off, they first mistake was going to a pizza restaurant and ordering a salad.

 

[crosstalk 00:07:50]

 

Like I never got why McDonald’s has low fat choices. Like, for what? If I’m going to McDonalds, I’m not going there to be healthy. You know what I mean?

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Chantel: Yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: So, you’re putting yourself in the wrong restaurant anyway, I guess, if you have trouble making food selections. And…

 

Chantel: Well, here’s the perfect example. Today, actually I did, we did go to a pizza place today. It’s funny that they’re asking this question. But we went to a pizza place and I went with a friend of mine. And she ordered the salad. And then she ate the salad. And then I didn’t… I had, like, a couple slices of the pizza. I ordered a small pizza, had a couple slices and had a bunch left over. She said, can I have some of your pizza? Because, she’s like, I ordered this salad and it didn’t satisfy me. She’s like, I really wanted the pizza. I should have ordered the pizza.

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chantel: So now instead, she now ate the salad, which she didn’t want.  Then she ended up eating my leftover pizza that, instead of just eating the two slices of pizza, she now ate pizza and salad because she was never satisfied with the salad that she got.

 

Christie: Right, right.

 

Chantel: So, it’s like figure out what you really, really, really want. And like, for you, like, how, on a scale of one to ten, would you say if you really want the pasta is it like an eight, nine or ten that I really want the pasta, then I’ll get the pasta. If not, I’m going to go ahead and get the salad.

 

Christie: If I want the pasta at all, I get the pasta.

 

Chantel: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Christie: If I feel like, oh, it’s a pasta day. Then I’m getting the pasta. Because why wouldn’t I? I don’t go to Il Giordino every day. And, you know, it’s just a… it’s one of those things again where food is an experience for me and I’m enjoying every bite of my pasta.

 

Chantel: And you’re making sure you’re hungry.

 

Christie: But also… I don’t necessarily finish the bowl of pasta. And that’s something you and I have talked about before. You’ve seen me. At lunch the other day, for your birthday lunch, I had a bowl of soup and I barely ate it. Because I wasn’t as hungry as, I guess, everybody else who was finishing it up. So, just because you get the pasta you still listen to your body. If you’re getting the hamburger and you’re done with the ham, you know, you don’t stuff yourself just because it’s there and it’s in front of you.

 

Chris Sykes: You still gotta listen to your goals. So, you can do that because you eat clean. You’re not trying to lose 30 pounds. If I’m in a position where I’m trying to lose 30 pounds, then you gotta think about your goals. So you might have to get the salad from the pizza restaurant. You might the pizza. That’s the hard part of losing 30 pounds.

 

Christie: No, no, no. I disagree with that, though.

 

Chantel: I disagree with that, too. I disagree with that, too. Because at the end of the day, if you want the pizza, the amount of… as long as you’re only eating a small amount of the pizza, by the time you add up the calories in the salad and the chicken and the dressing, it ends up being almost the same amount of calories…

 

Chris Sykes: Calories are the same, yeah… But you…

 

Christie: But you’re not as happy, because you just got the salad.

 

Chris Sykes: Talking about people that… Say I was trying to lose 30 pounds, like I got a problem. I would eat four or five slices of pizza. A person that’s trying to lose 30, just in this short amount of time, not a lifetime thing, they might need… they might can’t eat one or two slices of pizza. They can’t stop themselves.

 

Christie: That’s where I disagree with him though. No, no, no. It is a lifetime thing. Because you’re not… so the idea of going on a diet to lose 30 pounds and then going back to your old eating habits is…

 

Chris Sykes: Oh, no, no, no. Not going back to the old ones, but you got to get…you’re going to have to make a change over your old habits, you know what I mean. If you’re used to eating five slices, so, it’s like let’s say I was a former alcoholic. I’m going to have to give up the alcohol completely for a minute. For a while. And then I might be able to control it where I can drink. Socially with somebody, without binging out. So sometimes it just depends on your goals. If you’re at the end of your goals, and you’re just trying to lose five pounds, you can control yourself, you know you can eat two slices of pizza and hold yourself down, then I would say get the pizza. But you can’t get a salad either if it’s not going to satisfy you. You’re just going to be hungry. So you’re just going to leave the restaurant and go get something to eat. You know, so you gotta find…

 

Chantel: Chris is like, so bottom line is just stay home. Do not even walk in. Don’t even walk in.  [crosstalk 00:11:40]

 

Chris Sykes: You know what I mean? You might want to make it an in between. So if they got a chicken parmesan or something with pasta and it comes with a side salad that will fill you up, and you’ll be able to control yourself when you eat it. You know what I mean?

 

Chantel: Well, okay, so let’s just talk about this for a second, because it’s really important. I just saw a friend of mine that I hadn’t seen in, I don’t know, maybe a good year. Okay? And I just saw her, we were going to lunch. She literally had gained about 80 pounds in this one year period.

 

Christie: Wow.

 

Chantel: From the time that I had saw her last. And so, I talked to her. I said, well what are you doing? She’s like, oh I’m real happy, I’m doing the keto diet right now. And I’m thinking to myself, well…

 

Christie: It’s not working.

 

Chantel: Something is not… something’s not working because clearly you’ve gained all this weight. But here’s what I’m trying to say with that. I agree with you, Christie. You have to make it where whatever you are truly wanting to eat, you have to eat that food. And it’s never, I’m going to deprive myself this, I’m going to deprive myself that. I’m going to eat that food. I’m going to eat it in small portions. I’m going to eat it slowly. And I’m going to eat it until I’m comfortably full. And truthfully, like, and not to mean, but you shouldn’t be eating… like have you ever eaten more than two slices of pizza in your entire life?

 

Christie: When I was pregnant and I gained 50 pounds, yeah. Possibly. But in general, no.

 

Chantel: But in general.

 

Christie: No. I mean, no.

 

Chantel: Yeah.

 

Christie: Not even in Italy. Like with Italian pizza in Rome. I don’t think I had more than two slices.

 

Chantel: Yeah.

 

Christie: I’ve had an entire pie, though. But it was a small. So…

 

Chris Sykes: Personal one.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

[crosstalk 00:13:26]

 

Chris Sykes: We got real life problems over here.

 

Christie: Well, I want to be honest though, I don’t want to like…

 

Chantel: Yeah.  But in general, in general though, like that is kind of the principles in my book that I’ve noticed of people who have… who are thin, they don’t have an issue with food. They just don’t deprive themselves of what they want. If they want it, they eat it. And they eat it in just small portions. Because, like I said with her, I was… she was like, oh yeah I’m real happy about the keto diet. I’m thinking to myself, this is what’s going on with you. She just kept going on all these diets. Then, as soon as she’d get off, she was eating twice as much as she was before. And literally, over a year she’s now gained 80 pounds from all these crazy diets she’s doing.

 

Alright, let’s go to the next question. Chris?

 

Chris Sykes: So Andrea in Chesapeake wants to know, she has a really strange question, how do you break the chain of not eating when you aren’t hungry? Not eating when you aren’t… okay. Maybe it’s 5:00 and everyone in my family’s out to eat, I’m not hungry yet, but everyone is eating. What do I do? I find myself in the same predicament at parties. How do I handle this?

 

Christie: Oh my gosh. Just because food is in front of you, does not mean that you have to eat it. I feel like is the answer to that question. So, if you’re not hungry, don’t eat.

 

[crosstalk 00:14:41]

 

To be honest with you, yeah, you can always have the opportunity to eat later. So just because you’re there now, and it’s in front of you, I mean, what, does your kitchen close at 6:30? So you can’t go into your kitchen and get a sandwich at 7:30 when you’re hungry?

 

Chris Sykes: Go to the refrigerator. They got them styrofoam containers at restaurants for a reason.

 

Chantel: You know, I have the best story about Christie. So, one time…

 

Christie: Uh oh. I’m nervous.

 

Chantel: One time I came over, and I make really good guacamole.

 

Christie: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

 

Chantel: I have this signature guacamole, it’s really, really good.

 

Christie: She makes it from scratch, and she’s pouring out the avocado and mashing it… yeah.

 

Chantel: It’s really good. And to be honest, I do have kind of a sous chef that kind of does everything for me. I just kind of go, swish, swish, swish, swish, swish. And put it together.

 

[crosstalk 00:15:28]

 

Christie: You look like you’re doing all the work when you’re at my house making it.

 

[crosstalk 00:15:31]

 

Chantel: I have someone that chops the garlic. I have someone that chops the onion. I have someone that chops the cilantro and chops the avocado. All I do is go, swish, swish, swish.

 

(Laughing)

 

And I do add my own salt and pepper.

 

(Laughing)

 

Christie: Because you haven’t figured out a way to transport that yet, with this.

 

Chantel: So, anyway, I brought the guacamole over. And I saw Christie look at it. Everybody kind of was like swarming it. They were like…

 

Christie: They’d take it all. Like there would be none left.

 

Chantel: Yeah, they were like, oh my gosh, Chantel brought guacamole, let’s like go right after it. Well what happened was, she literally saw that I brought it,, as soon as she saw it, she went and got a bowl, took my guacamole, took some chips on the side…

 

Christie: No chips.

 

Chantel: Oh, you didn’t do chips, okay. Just did the guacamole.

 

Christie: No chips, no chips.

 

[crosstalk 00:16:16]

 

Chantel: And then put it in the refrigerator.

 

Chris Sykes: That’s an amazing concept, isn’t it.

 

Christie: Right?

 

Chantel: Yes. Put it in the refrigerator. And it wasn’t like it was that much longer. It was really weird. It was probably maybe 45 minutes to an hour later, I look at Christie and I’m like… because, no, I said to her, I said what are you doing with the guacamole? She’s like, oh I don’t want it to all be gone and I’m not hungry right now. I’m going to save it. I’m going to put it in the refrigerator.

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

And that’s exactly what I did. And then later when I was hungry… because everybody was still coming in and it wasn’t a good time for me to eat, because we were having, like a party that day. And it was like a day time fun party. And, so, I wouldn’t have enjoyed it if I scarfed down guacamole. I would have been hungry an hour later, too, probably. Because I wouldn’t have remembered eating it. So later, when everybody was there, it was relaxed, then I could eat my guacamole.

 

Chris Sykes: That becomes a habit. If you get used to, I gotta eat, it’s 12:00. I gotta eat, it’s 2:00. I gotta eat, I’m about to eat, I gotta eat. Somebody brought us some cookies from home and is giving them out. That becomes a habit that you think that, you starting tricking your mind to think that I gotta eat every time food’s in front of me. Or I’m hungry. You know, you stop listening to your body and it just becomes a habit, as you just start eating at certain times and when food’s in front of you, so…

 

Chantel: She, Christie, is so in tune with her body. Of really knowing when she’s hungry, when she’s full. And the reason why I love intermittent fasting is because it allows you to get hungry. I feel like so many people, they don’t even know what true hunger is, because they never, ever let them get to that point of being hungry.

 

Alright. Let’s go to Jailyn in Virginia Beach. How do you handle sweets? Do you eat them? Do you crave them? Or have you cut them out completely?

 

Chris Sykes: Don’t look at me. Don’t look over here.

 

Christie: Is this a Christie question?

 

Chantel: This is a Christie question.

 

Chris Sykes: It’s gotta be a Christie question. Definitely ain’t a Chris question.

 

Christie: So I have a story where one, it was over the holidays, I think, it was probably last Christmas. And I woke up, I had a couple glasses of wine, and I woke up the next morning and I had cookie crumbs underneath my boobs. I don’t know if I can say that, or not. Like they were cookie crumbs, so I must have, like, had too much to drink and then just decided I was eating Christmas cookies. And I wake up the next morning, it was like a massacre. All the crumbs on me. So, yes, I do eat sweets. But like, I don’t eat sweets every day. And I don’t think about sweets, really ever.

 

So, I know for like my birthday, I wanted really special birthday cake.  And then I’ll have… it’s a special treat, but…

 

Chantel: So if you have to say, like, when you do eat sweets. So would it be, like, two times a day? I mean, like two times a week, three times a week, four times a week…

 

Christie: No. I couldn’t put a number on it, to be honest with you. Like, before I go to bed, I like having like a handful of chocolate chips sometimes. And I might do that a couple times a week. But that would be my sweets. It’s like a handful of chocolate chips.

 

Chris Sykes: Do you have any food addictions? You have any food, like, cheat things that you can’t control?

 

Chantel: She loves pasta. She does love pasta.

 

Christie: I love pasta and I love bread.

 

Chris Sykes: So those two things…

 

Christie: Chocolate cake, like my moms devils food chocolate cake, like that’s in my house, that has to go.

 

Chris Sykes: Not really.

 

Christie: But other than that, I mean…

 

Chris Sykes: Like you had a chef at your house, and you always have pasta and that devils cake, could you resist it?

 

Christie: Yeah. Because you know you can always get it later. It’s never going to be like, oh my gosh this is the last pasta of my life on Wednesday night.

 

Chantel: But see how powerful that is? Like in her mind, she’s thinking, I can always have that later. Like, I don’t have to have it right now. And I don’t have to have it every time.  My big thing is after I finish eating, I almost always want something sweet to eat.

 

Chris Sykes: Me too.

 

Chantel: So that is an issue for me. What does help me is, you know, those Hershey’s kisses, just to have like those in your purse. Like one or two. And then having literally one Hershey kiss. How would you feel about having one Hershey kiss?

 

Christie: If I wanted one, I would have it.  But I have to be honest with you. Just the idea of putting a Hershey kiss in my mouth right now, after I ate, I would feel like ew I have to brush my teeth, because I’ve got like all of that sugar just sitting in my…

 

Chantel: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Christie: Like it’s just… so no. I wouldn’t have a Hershey kiss. Like, it wouldn’t even be something… I could walk by the bowl of Hershey kisses.

 

Chantel: So do you have sweets, like a bowl of sweets, in your house at any time?

 

Christie: I mean, maybe around Halloween. Waiting to pass out candy. But no. In general.

 

Chantel: So you don’t really have…

 

Christie: I mean, I’m trying to think of my… oh you know what I have, I’ve got in my theater room, a whole thing of candy bars. Yeah, I’ve got like a tub of candy bars in my… I’ve got Hershey’s bars, I’ve got Twix, Kit-Kat’s, Reese’s. Yes.

 

Chantel: So, I have…

 

Christie: I forget I even have it.

 

Chantel: This is a great story. I had this assistant one time. And she had this little pack of donuts. You know, like those little mini six packs.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chantel: And she had it sitting on her desk for literally, like, a week and a half. And every day I walk by and I saw that…

 

Christie: It was driving you crazy.

 

Chantel: And I’m like, God, she still hasn’t eaten those donuts. When is she going to eat them? And everyday I’d come by her desk, they’d be sitting right there. Every day I’d go by and they were sitting there. Finally she called out at work. She called out of work sick. And that day, I was like, I’m eating those damn donuts.

 

Christie: It’s horrible.

 

Chantel: So I went and I ate three. And then I put the cover back on. And then I went back and ate the other three.

 

Chris Sykes: Finding out all types of stuff about you today.

 

Christie: You tried. You tried not to eat them, though, like all of them.

 

Chris Sykes: [crosstalk 00:21:37] the guacamole. And now you stealing assistant’s donuts.

 

Chantel: Oh my gosh.

 

Chris Sykes: Did you tell her you ate them?

 

Chantel: No, I told her, yeah. No, actually I went and replaced them. So then I felt bad. So I went to the store, got the same ones and put them on her desk. Then she kept them there for another couple days.

 

Chris Sykes: She seems disrespectful. See, I wouldn’t never given the donuts. She don’t want the donuts, obviously.

 

Chantel: Well, no, this is where I’m talking about, somebody who is a thin eater like that, there’s no magnetic pull on those donuts. Because in her mind she can have the donuts whenever she wanted.

 

Chris Sykes: I don’t know. Maybe she just didn’t like those donuts.

 

Chantel: No. She liked them.

 

Christie: She went and bought the donuts at the grocery store, minutes later, right? So you, yourself, know there’s no shortage of donuts. Right? Any time you want a donut, you can go. Krispy Kreme, Dunkin Donuts, Duck Donuts, they’re all around. Better quality donuts than the junky ones you ate, to be honest with you.

 

Chantel: Yes.

 

Christie: So you wasted your calories on junk donuts that might have been stale, because they’d been there for a week. When you could have had a really quality, yummy donut.

 

Chantel: That is such a great point. Because that is, again, for the thin eater, like Christie, they really like… if they are going to have something sweet, and you correct me if I’m wrong. If you are going to do it, on the enjoyment scale of one to five, it has to be a four or a five. If it’s less than a four or a five, you’re not even going to waste your calories on that.

 

Christie: Or my time.

 

Chantel: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Christie: Right. I’ll have a bite of it. And if it’s not good, I’m done.

 

Chantel: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Christie: Because I’ve already eaten the meal, too, at that point, because it’s dessert.

 

Chris Sykes: I’m so tired of eating stuff that ain’t that great. I should have just… it’s like watching a bad movie. You watch it to the end. I gotta see how it ends.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: Like it’s so terrible, but you keep watching it.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: Because sometimes I get like… like I love cheesecake. But I only like certain restaurants cheesecakes, or something. You know, you can buy it frozen and stuff like that. And sometimes it’s not all that. And I just eat it anyway. So that’s a good point.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: You gonna do it, you might as well do it all the way.

 

Chantel: Yeah. Make sure that you love it. That it’s an enjoyment scale of four or five.

 

Alright. Next question.

 

Christie: Next.

 

Chantel: This is from Jen from Williamsburg. I know that there are a lot of benefits to intermittent fasting besides weight loss, but I’m not going to lie, weight loss is my number one motivation. The 100% reason that I’m committing to this lifestyle. The problem is that I’m not losing quickly, as quickly as I’d like. I’ve heard Chris mention that a bunch of his clients do intermittent fasting. And I was wondering if he could share some of the most common mistakes he’s seen, or reasons why someone doing intermittent fasting may not be losing weight as much as others.

 

Chris Sykes: The biggest mistakes I’ve seen…

 

Chantel: It’s so funny because sometimes people write a question just to me or just to him. And then like, I’m like, oh- there’s a question for you.

 

Christie: The break out star of the Chantel radio podcast.

 

Chantel: Yes, yes. And they’re like, oh and we wanted to know from Chris.

 

Christie: Well, what’s Chris doing?

 

Chris, give me your…

 

Chris Sykes: My two minutes of fame, right here.

 

Since we’re all the way in North Dakota. And where’d we get from, Ireland or something last week?

 

Christie: No way, really?

 

Chantel: I can’t remember what… it was a different country.

 

Chris Sykes: It was some country. I don’t know where it was but I feel like we made it. But the biggest mistakes I see. One is not taking measurements. Just looking at the scale. So like a couple of ladies that work for Chantel, they’ve been coming to the gym for the last 30 days. They did a 30 day result. So they lost, between… most of them lost between four to six pounds. Which is a good amount to me, but, you know, not a huge amount to most people for a month.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: But then, so they were like, that’s good. And then they got to their measurements and they lost all these inches off of their stomach and arms and thighs. And they were like ecstatic. Like they loved it. So I say the biggest thing you gotta take measurements, like inches.

 

Another thing, why you might not be losing weight even though you doing fasting, I don’t know, see I wish they were more specific on how much weight they lost and how long they been doing it. So they been doing it for two week and they haven’t lost 10 pounds then that’s self explanatory. They gotta be a little more patient.

 

Christie: How long should you be doing intermittent fasting? To see, kind of, any results?

 

Chantel: For me, it took me. My first week I lost nothing. My second week I lost nothing. My third week I lost nothing. Until, well, until the end of the third week. I lost six pounds the third week. And then the forth week I lost, was it four pounds? Or something like that?

 

Chris Sykes: Or something like that.

 

Chantel: Yeah. So it was like, I had no results. But again, that’s what I call the whoosh effect with intermittent fasting because what happens is, it’s not even really possible for you to lose four pounds in one week, right?

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Chantel: So, like, for you to get on the scale, so, when you’re losing weight, your body fills up with water into those places of the muscle. And then it kind of goes and it’s like a whoosh effect. And then you lose that water. So, like, for me intermittent fasting is one of the craziest things that it is a very slow start. It’s the slowest starting thing. And the only reason that I kept with it is because I had people that had told me, hey, I did it, I did it, took a couple weeks, I didn’t lose anything. And then, bam, I just really started losing. And it doesn’t, it’s not every single week you lose it. The week before I lost four pounds…

 

Chris Sykes: It’s a real lifestyle thing. You know, you’re not taking a diet. Like I’m going to eat 900 calories. Of course you’re going to lose 12 pounds in a month, or something like that if you’ve been eating 2500 calories. That’s not sustainable. So the big thing is, you’re finally doing something sustainable, be patient with it. Because actually, you’re probably eating good. If you start out intermittent fasting, your food choice is not like your eating kale and lemon chicken and that’s it. You know, for four straight weeks. You’re still eating good meals. You still got good food choice.

 

I would say even with me it took about three weeks. Because I was taking pictures like every few days, because I wanted to see the changes. And I would say about three weeks in is when I really noticed the big change. Maybe about two and a half, three weeks in. I noticed the big changes.

 

And another big thing that I see with a lot of clients is they still sometimes eat too much, or they got too big of a window. So, 3000 calories is 3000 calories. Whether you eat it in eight hours or you eat it in 16 hours or 20 hours.

 

So, I saw a guy today, I think his name was Drew Hysan on Facebook.  He had a good form that he said he tracks his food Monday, he said everybody has habits throughout the week. So people start the week eating around the same thing, and then towards the end of the week you eat around the same thing. On the weekends you tend to do the same thing. So he said he recommends to all his clients they track it Monday, Thursday and Saturday. That’ll give you an accurate of what you’re doing. So if you feel like you’re not losing weight, it’s been four weeks, you lost like a pound or something. Or intermittent fasting, you might be eating too many calories. So you might want to track it a couple days, make sure you’re not eating too many calories.

 

Chantel: Yeah, the thing that I say constantly is, are you listening to your satiety signals?

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Chantel: And, you know, are you when you’re done eating, on a scale of, you know, zero to five, where are you on your hunger and fullness? Are you at the Thanksgiving Day full by the time you’re eating? You should not be at Thanksgiving Day full. You should be at barely… like when you’re stopping eating, this is a good point, like how full would you say that you are when the minute that you stop? Do you already know… like for me I have a scale of what I say, zero, one, two, three, four, five, okay? Zero is past hunger, okay. So that means a number one on the scale is my stomach has growled. Like I physically heard my stomach growl.

 

Christie: So zero is your stomach is growled maybe half an hour ago and now you’re not even hungry anymore because you missed it.

 

Chantel: No, so zero is at least an hour… is an hour after your stomach…

 

Christie: So you’re starving.

 

Chantel: Yeah, you are really, really hungry.

 

Christie: Famished.

 

Chris Sykes: We call it hamster hungry.

 

Christie: Why is it called hamster hungry?

 

Chris Sykes: Ask her why it’s called hamster hungry?

 

Christie: Why, why, why? I’m thinking like horrible things.

 

Chantel: Yes. Because we had a friend of ours, when we were younger, who had a hamster that had babies. And she forgot to feed the hamster.

 

Christie: Oh, no.

 

Chantel: And she went on vacation. The hamster got so hungry, it ate the babies.

 

Christie: That’s disgusting.

 

Chris Sykes: So we try to avoid hamster hungry.

 

Christie: So that’s hamster hungry.

 

Chantel: That’s hamster hungry.  That’s zero.

 

Chris Sykes: Avoid that at all costs.

 

Christie: So then one is just, you’re hungry, your stomach’s growling.

 

Chantel: Your stomach’s growling.

 

Christie: And then five is you’ve eaten a Thanksgiving dinner.

 

Chantel: Yes.

 

Christie: Alright. So I hate that five feeling. Because you’re just uncomfortable, you’re full, you bloat and you feel nasty. So I think that when I’m done eating I’m probably like a three.

 

Chantel: And exactly what I’ve been saying, folks. There you have it from the horse’s mouth, okay. From the skinny girl, telling you what to do.

 

Christie: Was I right, though?

 

Chantel: And again… yes. See, and she hasn’t even read the book.

 

Christie: No.

 

Chantel: She has not read the book.

 

Christie: Well because four is you’re feeling like, probably, like you have to unbutton your pants. Or you’ve gotten now, you’re not…

 

Chantel: Four is you’re stuffed.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chantel: Four is stuffed.

 

Christie: So, three.

 

Chantel: Three is you’re comfortably full. You can still walk around. You can do everything.

 

Christie: Well because the whole point of eating like a lunch in the middle of the day is so you have energy to get through the rest of your day. And same thing with dinner. So its… why would you want to feel, like, more tired after you eat, because you ate too much.

 

Chantel: So let me ask you this. Are you ever tired after you eat?

 

Christie: Oh, gosh, no. Why would you be? You just ate.

 

Chris Sykes: [inaudible 00:30:41]

 

Christie: Like, I mean, are we talking about my birthday dinner?

 

Chris Sykes: Like you know how you get that sleep, you get that sleep if you eat a big lunch… you get that sleepy feeling.

 

Christie: I don’t eat a big lunch, Chris.

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah, it’s…

 

Christie: Have you not been here for the last…

 

Chris Sykes: You want to know. No, you saying, why would you be tired, you know, you just ate.

 

Christie: Yeah. Because I don’t eat like that normally. Like, so normally no. Like, maybe after, I mean I didn’t eat Thanksgiving dinner this year, we went out of town. But after Christmas dinner, I’ll eat a big meal. And then I’ll probably be sleepy. I see what you’re saying. But I normally, that’s like, those are holidays and celebrations.

 

Chantel: That’s like two times a year.

 

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Christie: Like there may be a few more than that. But yeah, that’s just not my life.

 

Chantel: So two times a year you might get to a level four.

 

Christie: Or a five. Yeah. Yeah.

 

Chris Sykes: That should be a big sign to anybody. If you’re getting tired after lunch or dinner…

 

Christie: You’re doing something wrong.

 

Chris Sykes: You’re doing something wrong.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chantel: So, yeah, for Jen… is this Jen’s question from Williamsburg?

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah.

 

Chantel: Okay, so here’s my thing. I would say that you need to look at five different things.

 

Number one. You’re either eating too much in your window, period the end.

 

Christie: Too many calories in your window?

 

Chantel: You’re just eating too many calories and you’re just eating too much.

 

Christie: What’s a window? Typically?

 

Chantel: So the window for what I talk about in my book, is you choose what window you want to eat in. So, we suggest either an eight hour window, a six hour window or a four hour window.

 

Christie: Okay.

 

Chantel: So for me, in general, I eat on a six hour window. So usually, I start eating lunch at around 12:00 and I’ll have a lunch. And then dinner I’ll eat around 5:30 or 6:00. So I have like a six hour window there. For me, when I was doing an eight hour window, like if it was like, 11:00 to 7:00, or something like that, that’s too large of a window for me because everything on your window depends on how big of portions you’re eating. So for me, I like eating a little bit more on my portions. So my window has to be smaller in order for me to continue to lose weight. But if I really, really want to lose weight, I keep my window at like four hours. Which just means, like, I eat one meal, and then I’ll have another snack. So like the other day I went to Aldo’s for lunch. That was my only meal for that entire day, because I really had a big lunch. There was no reason for me to have anything else for the rest of the day.

 

Christie: Because you weren’t hungry, probably.

 

Chantel: I wasn’t hungry.

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chantel: So there was no reason for it.

 

Number two is that, what Chris was talking about, that the scale might not be giving you an accurate measure of your body composition. You know, we’ve got a girl here, Allie, and she is… she wasn’t doing any kind of work out at all. And so she had weights, so she was building muscle.

 

Three is that you’re having too long of an eating window, like I said. Yeah. Eight hours for me is way too long. But it works great for a lot of people. Like I bet you eat in an eight hour window, don’t you? Because you said you really don’t eat breakfast.

 

Christie: No, I never really eat breakfast anymore.

 

Chantel: So, for lunch, what time do you start lunch?

 

Christie: I mean, I still haven’t had lunch. What time is it? 3:30?

 

Chantel: See? Does everyone see what I’m talking about? This is why Christie’s here. I am…

 

Christie: Christie hasn’t been hungry yet today. So I had a busy morning. I worked out. I don’t eat breakfast. I went to work. And then I came here. So, there’s been no time for me to eat. And I haven’t even thought about it. To be honest with you.

 

Chantel: See.

 

Chris Sykes: I was going to say, and you know what’s crazy, I haven’t overeaten. Like the only time I eat, like we talking about fours and fives, only time I eat like that is when I eat regular. Like I eat three, four meals a day. Eat breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks and all that. Every time I fast, it’s like it shuts off, I don’t know what it is. Like I can’t over eat. And I eat a lot. You know. Individually, the meals itself, like if I have rice and chicken or whatever I’m having, I can’t, I don’t overeat. Like I don’t go back for thirds if I’m full or something. So it’s like, your body almost self corrects itself. That you just eat a certain amount and then you’re good.

 

Chantel: Yeah.

 

Christie: Right.

 

Chris Sykes: You cut yourself off.

 

Chantel: So reason number four is are you giving it enough time. Like we said, Chris it took three weeks for him to see any results. It took me three weeks to see any results. And it does have a little bit of this kind of action. The highs and the lows. And you’ll lose a lot and then you’ll go a week where you don’t. And then you lose a lot…

 

Chris Sykes: That’s any good, healthy weight loss program. Or weight gain program. Is you’re supposed to be losing…. you know you’re not supposed to be losing really over, like one to two pounds a week on average is the goal.

 

Chantel: Right.

 

Chris Sykes: So, you know, if you’re losing three, four, five, six pounds in a week, you probably crash dieted somewhere. You’re probably cutting too much where you’re not going to be able to sustain that. If you’re getting one to two pounds a week, some weeks your going to skip. You can’t lose two pounds a week for the rest of your life. You know. So that’s like perfect. And that’s like eight pounds a month. That’s a lot of weight. You know, you talk over three months, that’s a lot of weight. You know, at the end you lose 24 pounds.

 

Christie: I have a question about that, though. So does your body find a set point? So then when you’re doing intermittent fasting and you’re eating within this window, and you’ve lost all of this weight. Eventually, you’ve got to stop losing weight, right?

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah, I think so. Because we all started like 215. And then it seemed like I got to like the high 190s. I’d say between 198 and 202. And no matter how much I ate or didn’t eat, it seemed like I was between that weight. Like I feel like my body’s set… [crosstalk 00:35:55]

 

I think anybody if you lose a certain amount of weight, you might not be happy. If you’re not happy with your set point, you can always adjust your macros. You can always adjust your diet, you know. Adjust your calories if you feel like your 175 and you’re still not happy, I think I need to be a little less. But I think so.

 

Christie: Okay.

 

Chris Sykes: It seems like.

 

Chantel: Well and the final thing is your hormones. So, Jen, I would get your hormones checked. And check your thyroid. So for me, that has been a huge issue in my life. Everyone knows I’ve really struggled with thyroid issues. Since I’ve been doing intermittent fasting it’s gotten so, so much better. But if your thyroid is not working, and it’s not working properly, it’s going to be a real challenge in your hormones. So, I would definitely go to a doctor and get those checked out.

 

Also, the other thing is, are you clean fasting? So, let’s talk about this. So Christie doesn’t… she’s going to be… the only example that she doesn’t fit my exact perfect mold. Which, by the way, I have a lot of people who don’t fit this mold that are doing really well. And that is, they drink coffee with cream in the morning. Correct?

 

Christie: Yeah.

 

Chantel: So she doesn’t eat. But like my aunt is a big coffee drinker. She’s usually drinking, you know, she won’t eat until probably 2:00 every day. But she will have two to four cups of coffee with cream in the morning. And that’s her, kind of, big hang up. But if you want massive results, if you can make it with having just unsweet tea, that’s where you have the best results. So let’s talk about what you are drinking in the morning.

 

Christie: Coffee. And I’ll put whole milk in it. Cream, like if it’s around. But usually it’s whole milk. Or I’ll use like a Coffee Mate creamer, it’s not healthy. But it’s like that powdered, junky stuff. Just because I don’t drink enough milk, often enough, that it goes bad. So I’ve started doing that.

 

Chantel: And how much cream do you put in it?

 

Christie: Oh, a little bit.

 

Chantel: Just a tiny, tiny bit? Or.

 

Christie: Yeah. Like a quick pour.

 

Chantel: Yeah. Basically what I have found is if whatever you’re drinking in the morning is less than 100 calories, it’s not going to have a huge, huge impact.

 

Chris Sykes: I read the same thing. Like we talked about that last week. Like you can be strict, strict on the fast if you want to, but you have to adjust your lifestyle. You have to adjust it so if coffee is needed every morning, get it. You know what I mean.

 

Christie: It’s needed.

 

Chris Sykes: I drink coffee every morning.

 

Chantel: But you can’t be taking eight… you know some of these Starbucks now. I saw one Starbucks…

 

Chris Sykes: Well that’s different now. That’s different.

 

Chantel: 800 calories in one Starbucks.

 

Chris Sykes: Well, they putting whipped cream. They’re controlling the sugar. They’re controlling everything that goes in that coffee. So if you going to drink coffee, obviously you’re going to need to get it black if you get it out. And add your own things to it. Or make it up. Because I drink coffee every morning, too.

 

Chantel: Or a little bit of cream, but not with sugar.

 

Chris Sykes: Yeah.

 

Chantel: You don’t put sugar in it, right?

 

Christie: I don’t put sugar.

 

Chris Sykes: I just was able to come down. Because Allie got me some of the MCT, so I’m now able to do the coffee or the MCT. Which is almost tastes black. So I be able to get black coffee within a couple of weeks. I’ve been adjusting my taste buds, hopefully, and I’ll be able to get down there. Because it technically breaks the fast. You know, but I drink it in the morning with the MCT or only no sugar, no cream. But eventually I want to get…

 

Chantel: And I do want to address one more thing from Jen in Williamsburg. Is that, you know, let’s just talk about carbs. Because, you know, I believe with all the people that I’ve interviewed, they are not counting their carbs by any means. But, they are balancing them. They’re not going to be, like… okay. They’re going to look, did I have carbs at lunch and dinner and lunch the next day. And, you know, talk to us about how do you do your carbs?

 

Christie: Well again, you know, sticking to my plan of I eat what I want. I kind of watch what I eat, but it’s… I pay attention to it. As far as carbs are concerned, I don’t naturally, unless I’m having that big pasta meal, I don’t really ever eat them. Like the typical bread. Or types of carbs. I do eat vegetables. I do eat fruit. I love fruit. And those are carbs, too. So I might have fruit earlier in the day and like a sweet potato at night, or something like that.  Carbs and carbs. Also, I don’t eat a lot of meat. Right? I’m a vegetarian. I eat fish and that’s it. So, a lot of my diet is made up of carbs. But the good, healthy kind of carbs. The clean eating carbs that you want in your diet.

 

Chantel: What about, like, ezekiel bread, would you ever have a toast…

 

Christie: Sometimes, if I’m feeling like it. Because the good thing about ezekiel bread is you can put it in your freezer. So I’m not watching my bread go moldy, right? It’s just, it’s supposed to be in the freezer, it’s good when it’s toasted.  It comes out. I like the cinnamon raisin kind if I get it.  But again, I’ll have like a piece of ezekiel bread and feel pretty good about it. Like, it doesn’t make me feel that bloated feeling that I get.

 

Chantel: So, like, would you ever have two slices of ezekiel bread?

 

Christie: Oh my gosh, is it a special occasion? Yeah, of course I’ll have two slices of ezekiel bread. Like, that’s the point.

 

Chantel: Today I had two slices of ezekiel. I was really…

 

Christie: Are you confessing about it?

 

Chantel: Well, normally I don’t eat breakfast at all. Now I’m just eating lunch and dinner. Yesterday I had a really, really small lunch. So the only thing I ate yesterday was bone broth and a small salad from Crockpot. That was my entire day.

 

Christie: Oh, yeah, that’s not enough.

 

Chantel: So that was just not enough. Plus I worked out three times yesterday.

 

Christie: Oh my gosh.

 

Chantel: So it was just like a crazy day for me. I was just really busy. But for whatever reason I really wasn’t even hungry. Just one of those days that I just wasn’t hungry.  So I woke up this morning and I was really hungry. So at 8:00 this morning I had two slices of ezekiel and two boiled eggs.

 

Christie: Okay.

 

Chantel: So…

 

Christie: But you were mindful of what you ate this morning, and that’s something that is good too. So you just…[crosstalk 00:41:45]

 

Chantel: So I didn’t really….

 

Christie: I mean, I think stuff like ezekiel bread, in my opinion, ezekiel bread is the same as just having a piece of regular bread. I don’t know what the difference really is supposed to be. I haven’t done any research on it, other than it can live in the freezer. And it tastes good. Like it’s…

 

Chantel: And ezekiel is made with all live ingredients. And there is really no chemicals in it. That’s why I love it. Is that if you look at the ingredients, if you look in the ingredients in like honey whole wheat bread…

 

Christie: From the bag?

 

Chantel: From the bag that you buy, just at the store.

 

Christie: Right.

 

Chantel: That’s like all natural, nature’s way, it’s horrible.

 

Christie: But then again, it’s in the bag because it’ll last forever.

 

Chantel: It’s horrible.

 

Christie: So if you go to the bakery, though, and you get the fresh sliced bread there, you’re eating wheat, yeast…

 

Chantel: A lot of them have just tons of chemicals, even there. Just so much chemicals, it’s not even funny.

 

Christie: I don’t know.

 

Chantel: It depends where you get it from.

 

Christie: Yeah, I guess.

 

Chantel: Okay. Next question.

 

Christie: What’s next?

 

Chantel: McKayla from Newport News says, I’ve heard some intermittent fasters talk about taking digestive enzymes and I’m wondering if you guys take them?

 

Christie: Alright, I have to ask a question about it. I’m not quite sure what a digestive enzyme is.

 

Chantel: Okay. So basically it’s just, it’s usually either in chewable tablets or it’s in pill form. And all it is, is like, you know in your stomach you have enzymes that help you digest your food. And so, like for me, I have all kinds of digestive problems.

 

Christie: Right.

 

Chantel: One is just from overeating in the past. And two is from when I had Kyle I threw up every single day. Six times a day for 10 months. So, if you think about it, when you’re constantly throwing up six times a day, there wasn’t a day that went by that I did not throw up six times a day, at minimum. Sometimes I was throwing up 10 times a day. I was the sickest pregnant woman you’ve ever seen. I’d be on the side of the road, literally throwing up. And so after I had him, the enzymes in my stomach and everything like that, it just wasn’t good. So I’m big on digestive enzymes. I definitely take digestive enzymes like after I eat. Especially if I’ve eaten a little bit more than I like. But just in general, it just helps my body digest my food, so that I’m not as tired. And you know, your blood rushes to your stomach to digest all that food. So instead it’s helping you just digest it.

 

Christie: So, which ones… what are they called? What’s a digestive enzyme called? Like if I go to Whole Foods and I buy them?

 

Chantel: There’s one that I like called SuperDigestAway. That’s the name of it.

 

Christie: Oh, okay. So it’s not like a probiotic?

 

Chantel: No.

 

Christie: I can’t believe I don’t know anything about this.

 

Chantel: All it does is help you digest your food. So, I love them. I think they’re fantastic. But again, I wouldn’t recommend them if you don’t have digestive problems. Because you don’t want your body to get used to only being able… you want your body to be able to do it on your own. It’s kind of like if you took a laxative every day, right? Then your body would depend on using that laxative. So, I’m kind of torn about it. But for me, in specific, I need to have them. I know I need to. But, I don’t know that the average Joe absolutely needs them, so…

 

Alright. Let’s look at the next one.

 

Christie: Super question.

 

Chantel: I’ve been doing… Tara from Virginia Beach, I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for about two weeks. I’ve lost a pound or two, but haven’t got that energy boost, clarity and extra productivity that Chantel always talks about enjoying during her fasted window. I want to experience this so bad. And she wrote like a couple of ‘o’s. How much longer will I have to wait?

 

Christie, I’m going to let you answer that. Like how you… do you feel like you… when you are like in a fasting window where you’re not eating, that you do have kind of more energy?

 

Christie: Well, yeah. Because when I’m feeling tired, I guess it’s time for me to eat. So again, I don’t.. my intermittent fasting isn’t as purposeful, I guess, as yours and Chris’. It’s just kind of accidental. And so I really feel good, most of the time. And then when I’m feeling a little slow or sluggish, that’s when I eat something. So, yeah. I feel like I always have this clarity, most of the time, at least, during the day. Energy, you know, I just had an amazing work out today. And so much energy afterwards. So…

 

Chantel: So like today kind of really threw me off, honestly. Because…

 

Christie: Because of your breakfast?

 

Chantel: Because I had my breakfast. And like, what I learned…

 

Christie: Wait. So today you were thrown because of your habits from yesterday. So you did too much.

 

Chantel: So, yeah. I went too far yesterday. And then today, the bottom line is for me, like I am so productive. Like from 9:00am until 1:00pm, until I actually… like I usually get to the office 8:30/9:00 in the morning. And from 9:00 to 12:30 or 1:00, I mean, I am just like a work horse. I’m just like [inaudible 00:46:46]

 

Christie: Right, right, right.

 

Chantel: I am like so… What happens is, is people don’t understand, the blood and energy that it takes to digest your food. It takes energy. So if your body is using it’s energy to digest your food, you’re going to have less energy. That’s why you should have that energy when you’re not eating. Because your body is taking it and moving it to other things. That’s why fasting is such a healing process.

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Chantel: Because your now… your blood is now, instead of taking all of it’s energy digesting, digesting, digesting, it’s healing other parts of your body.

 

Christie: Well, and I actually think that speaks to why you have to fast with clean, healthy foods. Because that way your body is not working on getting rid of the waste and the toxins. It’s just really allowing the food to do what it’s supposed to do.

 

Chantel: Yes. And that’s a great point. Because I do want to say that. That is another reason why, like, if you in the morning, can possibly do black coffee or an unsweet tea then the healing properties of what happens in your body is going to be more dramatic, so…

 

Christie: Yeah. You might not want to see me, though. If I don’t have my coffee.

 

Chantel: Well, you can have your coffee. You just can’t have it with any cream.

 

Alright, so, David in Virginia Beachs says, I have a question about supplements. The research I’ve done online recommends things like fiber, Metamucil, omega-3s, MCT, coconut oil, BCAA’s to go along with fasting. This is a lot. You may have been asked this before, but I’m wondering which supplements you guys take.

 

For me, I definitely take Omega-3s. That’s a big thing that I definitely take. I do take fiber pills. Because I, unfortunately, have a lot of problems pooping. I am not the best pooper in the world. So I definitely need some extra fiber in my diet. The one thing for me, I don’t think I eat enough fiber, so that’s an issue for me.

 

Christie: Right.

 

Chantel: So do you have problems pooping or no?

 

Christie: Not really, no. No. I eat plenty. I poop just fine, thank you very much. The BCAAs though, I thought that that was something that Chris used to recommend that you drink in the morning, with a big jug of water. To help you if you’re working out. Because his workouts are so intense that it’s like you needed this little extra push to help you, if you’re having that.

 

Chantel: Yeah. And I’ll let… we’re going to save that question. We’ll save that for Chris to answer. So I will re-ask this one when he is here, so he can talk to you about the BCAAs. But I will tell you, for thyroid issues, selenium is a big thing that I take. And I take a lot of B vitamins for energy.

 

Christie: So you take all of these in the form of pills? Or are they powders?

 

Chantel: Yes, pills.

 

Christie: Okay, so pills. So you will wake up in the morning and take your pills.

 

Chantel: I don’t take my vitamins until I’ve opened my eating window.

 

Christie: I’ve seen you do it.

 

Chantel: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Christie: I saw you take them. You had like the little thing of… when we had lunch the other day.

 

Chantel: Yes. So I’ll bring it with me, and then when I eat lunch. Couple reasons I do that. One, it’s not great, like you’ve seen how many vitamins and supplements I take, I usually take about 10-12, probiotics, just a whole bunch of that stuff.

 

Christie: So that’s when you take the digestive enzymes, too? All of that at the same time?

 

Chantel: All of it at the same time.

 

Christie: That’s why you have so many. Okay.

 

Chantel: So I usually do that at lunch. Plus, I think that it’s not good to cut your window with all those vitamins anyway. You shouldn’t be taking your vitamins until you’re opening your window for food.

 

Christie: Got you.

 

Chantel: Alright. Daysha, or Dashea, I might be mispronouncing that, I apologize. But it says, I love almost all the benefits of intermittent fasting. The energy, the weight loss, the clear skin I have. But there is only one thing I don’t like. I am losing my hair. I had bloodwork that came in all back normal. I’m wondering if this has to do with intermittent fasting. Have you heard of intermittent fasting causing hair loss?

 

Christie: I haven’t. I mean, I can’t imagine that. The only thing that I could think of is that she’s not getting the nutrients that she needs. So perhaps she’s not eating how she should eat.

 

Chantel: My concern is that I would want to see those… the number one thing for me that I would say if your hair is… if you’re losing your hair is either stress, massive amounts of stress.

 

Christie: For sure. Yeah.

 

Chantel: If I’m like super, super stressed out, my hair falls out like crazy. That’s number one. And number two is, I’d really want to look at those test results for your thyroid. I would get a second opinion on that. Because thyroid is one of the biggest things that has to do with hair loss. So, for me, when I had my… remember when I cut my hair, like, this short, and had to get extensions in my hair? I was so miserable. I felt bad about myself. When all my thyroid issues were going on. But I took a ton of Biotin. Like, overloaded. Biotin is the number one thing to grow thing.

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Chantel: And so I would do that. And then I would really look at what your stress… what’s going on in your life right now, what’s going on with stress. But I think the biggest thing is, is I would get a second opinion on your thyroid.

 

Christie: Yeah, I think the stress could actually be a big contributing factor to that, too. Now that you mention it. I hadn’t thought of that.  Actually, I was just thinking her diet was lacking in something. But stress would definitely cause you to… Yikes.

 

Chantel: Alright, well we are out of time. And so, let’s all give Christie a round of applause for joining us today. We’re so glad she joined us. But, what about any… let’s just hear from you Christie. Give us some last minutes tips. Like, anything that you can think of. You know, I was talking to my friend who was Miss Virginia a couple years ago, and one of her tips was… is like when she wants something sweet, she loves Skittles. Because Skittles, I think, has like, I don’t know, four or six, I think four calories.

 

Christie: You know the calories. I can’t remember what you told us, yeah.

 

Chantel: I think it’s four calories per Skittle. And so she’s like, I just like put a Skittle in my mouth and I just savor it. And she’s like, you know what, I might have four or five Skittles. Which at the end of the day, that’s like 25 calories, I don’t feel bad about it. And I really feel like I had a cheat. So, what would you say is a couple of tricks to your trade that you, kind of either some self talk, or things that you say to yourself. Or anything like that that kind of helps you to not eat when you’re not hungry, and just not over do it on any one thing.

 

Christie: I mean, I just guess I check in with myself. And I see if I’m hungry or not. I mean, again, it sounds so simple that I eat when I’m hungry and I stop when I’m full. But that’s really what I do. And I’ll sit, and I’ll… you know…

 

Chantel: Before you even take a bite, you’re asking yourself…

 

Christie: Am I hungry right now?

 

Chantel: Am I truly hungry right now?

 

Christie: Mm-hmm (affirmative)

 

Yeah. For sure. Definitely. That’s the biggest, I guess, secret to me. Maintaining, relatively, the same weight as I have.

 

Chantel: And the fact that you just, once you’re not hungry [crosstalk 00:53:54]

 

Christie: I stop eating. Yeah.

 

Chantel: Or you don’t even start it. The big thing is, you’re not even going to take one single bite if you’re not hungry.

 

Christie: If I’m not hungry.

 

Yeah. And I don’t care what everybody else around me is doing. So if everybody else is sitting down eating, unless it’s like a special occasion, just because we’re having lunch, and I’m not hungry yet, I’m not eating right now. S

 

Chantel: Perfect example. I think it was, we all went to Missy’s birthday lunch at L’Occa.

 

Christie: I didn’t even order anything.

 

Chantel: You didn’t order one thing. Because you said, you know what…

 

Christie: I had no appetite.

 

Chantel: I’m not hungry. I’m not hungry

 

Christie: At L’Occa. What the hell ever.

 

Chantel: Which is delicious.

 

Christie: It’s still there, and I can go anytime I want. And it was just like a busy day that day. And I was running off to teach my class. And it just wasn’t a time for me to eat.

 

Chantel: And you’re saving money, too.

 

Christie: Yeah. Right. I didn’t think about that.

 

Chantel: You’re saving money. Anything else that you can think of?

 

Christie: Not really. Other than, you know, also when I am sitting down with my daughter and we’re having our family dinners at night, you know, we just enjoy the time together. And we do a lot… that’s when we do a lot of our sharing and our back and forth. And I find out more about her day. And I enjoy that so much that the food becomes secondary. Right? So I eat if I’m hungry, or I’m hanging out with her then. But it’s not… the focus is not whatever we’re having for dinner that night. The focus is the interactions. And I think if you think about when you’re eating with friends and family and you’re focusing on that, you just will tend to eat less. Because you’re eating slower and you’re going to fill up faster.

 

Chantel: Awesome. Well thanks again for joining us.

 

Christie: Thank you. I had fun.

 

Chantel: And thank you so much for joining us today. We would love to hear from you, and answer your questions. So if you have a question, and don’t forget, just because we don’t answer it right away, we save them. Okay? So don’t get… I have a couple people who’ve emailed and said, I’ve asked my question, no ones responding. We will, I promise. Go to questions at ChantelRayWay.com. And look forward to seeing you next week. Bye bye.