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Chantel Ray: Hey guys. Welcome to this week’s episode. Today we’re talking all about wine. I have an amazing guest with you today. Her name is Tricia Yanek. Tricia welcome.
Tricia Yanek: Hi. Thanks for having me.
Chantel Ray: All right. Let’s talk about wine. One of the things … I’m not a huge wine drinker. The reason I haven’t been in the past, is because if I have one glass of wine, I literally just don’t feel good. I could have half a glass of wine, and then I’d wake up the next day and feel terrible. I could have two Tito’s, with soda water and a splash of cranberry or a splash of fresh squeezed orange juice and I’d wake up and feel fine.
Because of that, I have a lot to do. I have a lot going on. I wanna feel like a million bucks when I wake up the next day. Every time I would have wine, I wouldn’t feel good. Talk about what is the reason why someone could literally have half a glass of wine and wake up the next day and feel awful?
Tricia Yanek: Right. That’s what this whole wine movement is about, and the wine that we’re speaking about today. Unbeknownst to me and many other people, the things that are allowed by the FDA to be included in the wine, up to 250 chemicals are allowed by the FDA, to go into our wine. I had no idea I was drinking chemicals, when I was enjoying my wine. Up to 16 grams of sugar [crosstalk 00:01:35] in our wine. I mean, that’s equivalent to [crosstalk 00:01:37] one glazed donut.
Chantel Ray: In one bottle of wine [crosstalk 00:01:40] they could put up to 16 grams of sugar.
Tricia Yanek: Correct. Also, there are fining agents that are used in wine, making them non vegan. We can talk about that later. Yeah, there are many things, sulfates included. Many conventional-
Chantel Ray: They add sulfates, add chemicals, and the FDA doesn’t … Literally, you could pick up a bottle of wine, and it doesn’t tell you all the things that are in it.
Tricia Yanek: Nope. You would never know. A conventional bottle could have up to 340 parts per million is how sulfates are measured. Now, sulfates are a naturally occurring substance. You find them on grapes, on onions, on a lot of different things. However, the wines that we’re talking about today have very low sulfates in them.
Chantel Ray: Can you grab me that wine real quick?
Tricia Yanek: I can. Yeah.
Chantel Ray: Okay. This is the wine that we’re talking about today. This, in my opinion is the cleanest wine that you can find. If you’re listening to this on a podcast, go to our YouTube channel or go to, so you can see the wine I’m talking about. This is the cleanest wine that you’re gonna be able to find and the lowest sugar. Talk about the sugar. This bottle of wine has how much sugar?
Tricia Yanek: That particular bottle of wine and I’m talking about a liter of that wine in particular is 3/10th of one gram for one whole liter of wine. That’s pretty incredible.
Chantel Ray: Yeah, so that’s fantastic.
Tricia Yanek: Yeah. Speaking of back to keto diets, clean diets, this wine … The grapes are vinified to full dryness to begin with, which means there’s very low residual sugar on those grapes when they start the process of the wine making. From then, there’s no sugar added. That’s how you come up with such a residual …
Chantel Ray: Talk about the fact that, if I went right now to Wholefoods or Trader Joe’s and I went to go look for an organic wine, what is the difference between an organic wine and this wine right here?
Tricia Yanek: This wine right here has a label that is stamped on it, that says, not only is it organic, meaning they were grown organically, but there are no chemicals added, there are no, low sulfates. Ours usually fall about 50 parts per million. We spoke about the 340 that you could compare that to.
Chantel Ray: When you say probably and average bottle of wine probably has 200 …
Tricia Yanek: At least.
Chantel Ray: 200 or more milligrams …
Tricia Yanek: Parts per million.
Chantel Ray: Parts per million of sulfates in it.
Tricia Yanek: Right.
Chantel Ray: This wine is guaranteed that it has less than 50.
Tricia Yanek: Less than 100.
Chantel Ray: Less than 100.
Tricia Yanek: Usually sits about 50.
Chantel Ray: Sits around 50.
Tricia Yanek: For me, personally, that was a huge headache factor. I could drink this wine and not have a headache. I think from my personal experience, that’s the sulfite factor. Perhaps it’s the chemicals as well. Going back to finding an organic bottle at the grocery store, yes, that bottle that you find at the grocery store might say, made with organic grapes, however, it does mean … It started out as organic grapes, but on the back end of that wine making process they’re able to add those chemicals and still say it’s made with organic grapes. Be careful if you’re buying it from the grocery store, thinking that you are getting really clean wine.
Chantel Ray: What’s the price points for these wines.
Tricia Yanek: They range anywhere from 19 to 79 currently for what we have.
Chantel Ray: What is your favorite? Is this one right here, this [crosstalk 00:05:17] favorite?
Tricia Yanek: … favorite is the Bookbinder.
Chantel Ray: Okay.
Tricia Yanek: It’s a cab blend out of California. I have a lot of favorites. There’s a really great Argentinian Malbec, that I love. I love our bubbles. I love our Rose.
Chantel Ray: This wine right here is how much?
Tricia Yanek: That is a 68 dollar bottle.
Chantel Ray: Okay. This is 68 dollar bottle. Can we give one of these away?
Tricia Yanek: We can.
Chantel Ray: Okay. We’re gonna give … If you go onto our Facebook page right now, we are gonna give one lucky person a bottle of this Bookbinder wine. It is a cabernet. Is cab your favorite wine?
Tricia Yanek: It is. Cab’s my favorite.
Chantel Ray: If you love cab’s, this is the one that you need to try. Again, go to You can find more information there. If you … Let’s jump right into the listeners questions now. This one is from Jillian in Oklahoma. She says, “I’ve heard that champagne is one of the lowest carb options as far as drinks in the wine family, what are some other, low sugar wines I can try if I’m watching my carbs?” Well, this is one of ’em for sure.
Tricia Yanek: Yeah. All of our wines are low residual sugar. Three grams or less, per liter is amazing. You won’t find that in a conventional bottle. Again, they’re vinified to full dryness on the grapes. No sugar added on the backside.
Chantel Ray: None of the wines have more than three grams.
Tricia Yanek: Correct.
Chantel Ray: Most of them have less than one gram.
Tricia Yanek: Correct. Correct.
Chantel Ray: If you got onto the site, you’ll be able to see which one’s have what grams of sugar …
Tricia Yanek: That’s correct.
Chantel Ray: which is really important. If you got buy a bottle of wine anywhere else …
Tricia Yanek: You will never know.
Chantel Ray: you’re not gonna know how much sugar is in there. Like you said, it could have up to eight grams or more of sugar. All right. Lauren in Charleston, “I’m always on a hunt for a clean wine, because I can’t handle the hangover. I’ve tried different organic wines I found at Wholefoods and Fresh Market, but I still feel crummy after a glass or two. I’ve recently learned that America’s organic wine’s can still contain sulfates. Is this true and what makes an organic wine truly organic? How can I make my best decisions with the wine out there?”
Tricia Yanek: Right. Okay. Going back to sulfates are naturally occurring.
Chantel Ray: You’re not gonna … You won’t be able to find a glass of wine without sulfates in it. That’s just the bottom line.
Tricia Yanek: There might be some that are in Europe. I think we’ve had one that we’ve carried before. In order to transport a wine, it needs some sulfates in it. It doesn’t need a lot. That’s what we do, is check the sulfite level to make sure that it’s not high. Again, it’s anywhere under 100, is how you’ll find [crosstalk 00:08:09].
Chantel Ray: Most of them are 50 or less.
Tricia Yanek: Around 50 or less. Right.
Chantel Ray: She says, “What makes an organic wine truly organic?”
Tricia Yanek: What we do is we take the wine. First they cure it … They’re curated from all over the world, all different countries. Once they find a vineyard that says they’re actually growing organically, we bring that bottle back here. One bottle goes to UC Davis, which is the largest viticulture school in the country, and the other goes to another third independent tester. Those tests have to come back with no chemicals added, no sugar added, low residual sugar and low sulfates. When that all happens, it gets our label stamped on it and it says, “This in fact is truly organic, truly no chemicals added,” and it’s a guarantee.
Chantel Ray: I love that. That’s awesome. All right, Christine in California, “I’ve always assumed wine was vegan, but I was shocked to find out that all wine is not vegan. I found this to be so strange. Isn’t wine just grapes? What makes a wine not vegan? How can I find out which wines are, and which ones aren’t?” That’s a great question.
Tricia Yanek: Yeah. This is something I had no idea. I would assume … I think sometimes, they’re labeled vegan in the store. That probably is true if it is in fact vegan. What happens is, wine usually goes through a fining process. That process takes out proteins, it takes out cloudiness in the wine, also yeast. Fining agents can be shellfish, it can be bone marrow, it can be eggs, it can be milk casein. Those things actually [inaudible 00:09:56] the impurities out of the wine. Ours are vegan and guaranteed.
Chantel Ray: There might be on the … If you go to, there might be one or two that are not vegan.
Tricia Yanek: It would state it.
Chantel Ray: It will state it on there. The majority of them are vegan.
Tricia Yanek: That’s true. In the last year, I haven’t seen one wine that has been non vegan. Moving forward there is a chance we could have one. It would be stated on that label, on the description of the wine on the website.
Chantel Ray: That’s just what … It’s the agent that they’re using to filter that wine, whether it’s egg, or fish, or whatever it is. I’d love to show … I think what I’m gonna do is put a video of that, so people can see, if you got to our YouTube. It’s very … You need to see how it works, [crosstalk 00:10:54] to see that process. Who would know that?
Tricia Yanek: Right no correct. No. I didn’t.
Chantel Ray: I mean, you just think of … I think of wine as, you know, the Lucille … You’ve seen the Lucille Ball episode of, I Love Lucy, where she’s like, has her bare feet and she’s sitting there with the grapes. That’s what you think. That’s why you think, “Hey, with this wine, the reason why there’s no, ingredients on there, is because all wine is just grapes and water.
Tricia Yanek: Right.
Chantel Ray: That’s not true.
Tricia Yanek: It’s not. Ours is. It’s just grapes.
Chantel Ray: Yes.
Tricia Yanek: It’s the way it was intended to be. It’s not manipulated to make it taste a certain way. It’s intended the way it comes off of the vine.
Chantel Ray: Well, I can tell you I’m proof. I have drank a glass of this wine, and I’ve done a demo. You should try it, right?
Tricia Yanek: Absolutely.
Chantel Ray: Do a demo. If you don’t … If you feel like, “Hey. I wake up the next day, I have a glass of …” Now, if you have 20 glasses, [crosstalk 00:11:52] we’re not gonna [crosstalk 00:11:52] guarantee it, right? Try one or two glasses and if you wake up with a headache, you return it to me. We’ll give you a refund. We know this is … You’re not gonna have the same kind of headache that you do with a regular wine.
Tricia Yanek: Yeah. From personal experience, I definitely do not have a headache drinking this wine. It’s incredible. I think everybody needs to experience not only that, just the feeling that you have the next day after drinking this wine, you feel great. You wanna go to the gym, you wanna get up and do things, where with a conventional bottle you may feel cloudy, or just not yourself. It’s a big difference. I encourage everybody to try it.
Chantel Ray: That’s awesome. All right. Last question. Jamie in Bangor, which I have no idea where Bangor is.
Tricia Yanek: I don’t either.
Chantel Ray: I’ve never been someone who suffers from heartburn. Recently, I’ve noticed that the day after I drink wine, especially red, I have major heartburn. Wine is literally the only thing I can track this heartburn back to. The only variable that it could be. What is in the wine that causes heartburn and are there different types of wine I should be drinking, to prevent this? Cutting out wine is not an option LOL. Oh my gosh, that’s so cute. What kind of advice do you have for Jamie that has heartburn when she drinks wine?
Tricia Yanek: Yeah. Jamie, I understand the, not giving up the wine. I have heard that about red wine. I don’t know the science behind it. I’m not a medical doctor. I don’t know exactly why red causes more heartburn than white. You don’t have to give up the wine. Stick with the whites. I would give Scout & Cellar a try.
Chantel Ray: Yeah. I think that it really has to do with your digestive enzymes and kind of your gut microbiome, that what is that red wine doing to the alkalinity of your gut? That’s what I would look at. Yeah, I would just … If you know, after you have red …
Tricia Yanek: Right.
Chantel Ray: You’ve got major heartburn, try just the white and see what happens. All right, well thanks so much for joining us. Again, if you wanna try this amazing wine, go to and check it out. We’re giving away this free bottle of wine. This is a very expensive bottle, supposedly the best one from … Everyone has different tastes, right?
Tricia Yanek: Exactly. That’s the beautiful thing about wine.
Chantel Ray: Yes.
Tricia Yanek: Yep.
Chantel Ray: We’re giving this away. Go to our Facebook page and be one of those lucky winners. If you have a question that you want answered, go to We’ll see you next time. Bye, bye.