Hey, guys, welcome to today's episode. And today we have Anna Frueling and she's going to be talking about how to get break free from the addiction of sugar and how addictive it is, the 12 different steps that we are so excited to have. You and welcome!
Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to speak about something that's really not known about sugar addiction is addiction is really one disease. Many outlets kind of like your house is wired, right? You have one power system or one set of of, you know, your little braker system.
And all the wiring goes to that, to all these different outlets. And you can plug in different things into those outlets. So I've been trained by Biton Johnson, who is world renowned for her successful treatment of sugar and food addicts for years.
And she she says that sugar addiction is the primary addiction. In other words, that comes first. And that's because we're exposed so young to sugar and processed foods, including in infancy, say, with like formula, which is loaded with high fructose corn, sirup and things like that. I think some of the formulas are getting a little bit better, but they're still very sweet, very hyper palatable foods from birth.
So let's talk about how do you know if you are a true sugar addict or if you just like sugar? Right.
Well, everyone likes sugar, and that's all because our brain is hard wired for survival. So addicts have very special brain. And I'm convinced that the reason that there are still people on Earth is because of us, because we got up in the morning and we were like, let's let's gather. I remember where the berries were, right? Because we, like, wanted to eat and have sex and do all of these things. But in our modern times, what's happened is we never have times of lean. We never have that natural off button. So now, you know, sugar consumption has gone up and everything else. So now what happens to the brain? So an addicted brain is different than a normal brain. And you can actually see that on scans. And what's happened is that wiring system has been hijacked, that dopamine has been hijacked and it's been rewired. In fact, with my clients, I use a video that came out last year, Baby's first ice cream, and it just shows this baby just innocently sitting there Minding your own business. And all of a sudden they give her the ice cream cone and she literally, like you can see the wiring changing.
In other words, the neurons, the wire that fire together, wire together. So what's happening in the brain is now you have this euphoric recall. So now your brain is going to remember what it felt like to get that first high or that first hit that addicts talk about and to be able to tell the difference, you know, you can ask yourself some questions. And there's actually a quick fix question quiz that's free online called The Sunchoke. And we'll be posting that sugar global as well. But it's a question that deals with amount usage, amount of usage, that kind of thing. Have you tried to stop? Usually addicts try to stop doing something after one bite. Can you not stop? It's kind of like one bite is too many and a thousand is never an. So you have people that can moderate and they're like, hey, you know, I've had a I've been going crazy a little bit too crazy lately. I'm just going to tighten things up and they're able to do that. No problem. And they make a decision to you know, I've learned from my past, I'm going to have cake on my birthday. I'll have a treat on the holidays. Maybe I'll have a square of chocolate after dinner. And I'm good. Right. And they can do that and they do it well. And then you have the people who they take one taste and they're sneaking back to the fridge.
So addicts sneak, cheat, lie, steal, you know, like for me and my addiction, I would get up from the couch and I would be like, OK, you know, I'm going to go get a glass of water. And I would hurry up and eat like four or five spoonfuls of ice cream out of the freezer and then come back like I didn't do anything. Right.
So it's it's kind of that whole it's a whole different thing. There's a lot of behaviors that go with addiction that cause you guilt and shame and cause you to feel powerless and out of control.
And it's because you you can't control the substance that is causing this wiring to fire. And once you take one bite of that, that wiring just keeps going off like it wants more. And this is like you see little kids crying in the grocery store line for. Haughey's or please, mom, please.
When they look like little junkies, because honestly they are. And sugar is the gateway drug. So if anyone gets anything out of this limit, your cause is sugar.
Don't just give them don't give them food as a coping mechanism, you know, about something that can cause disordered eating, whether you're an addict or not.
So I like what you said. You said one bite is too many. A thousand isn't enough. That is a really good definition because it's like if you have one bite, you feel like you can't have. You know, I always say people who are naturally thin, they can have three bites and they can comfortably stop without any problem at all. So they can have three bites of a piece of cake and they can easily push it away. And I heard a story about this girl who had. She had she had a sugar addiction and she had bought a cake and she didn't want to eat anymore, so she went and put it in the trash.
She put comit all over it. And then she wanted it so badly that she went and took it out of the trash, scraped off the top layer where all the comment was, and then ate the inside.
Yes, I would say that that is true. But I also wouldn't say that it said it's a misunderstanding of the disease of addiction to think that thin people aren't addicts. In other words, there are a lot of thin I have a lot of thin clients that have never had a weight problem. And when I do the sugar tool on them, which is Spit and Johnson's tool that she created as an assessment tool for sugar addiction, and when I've done this, some thinner people, what I get is a is a curve that shows that their addiction started very early and by eight years old, they were dieting and by like I had one client who at 13, she was anorexic and at 20 she was bulimic. And then she went on to exercise bulimia. So her whole thing was trying to control, trying to control. And so she had all kinds of behavioral addictive symptoms due to the food. She was trying to control her use of food and she couldn't do it. And so addicts come in all shapes and sizes and some come in all shapes and sizes, four for one person.
So they started off, then become heavy, went back to then, maybe got underweight, then back to overweight.
So each person is different. That addiction doesn't care what size you are. It manifests itself and its symptoms in different ways for each person.
So sometimes I think the thin people have a harder time recovering because they don't see the people like to look at their outsides and think they know what addiction looks like when really it's your insides. It's the obsession and compulsion around food. It's the obsession and compulsion about what can I do to earn my next meal, that kind of thing. That's how a thin person might be thinking if they're an addict. And not all thin people are addicts. But there's a majority of of thin people that you would think, oh, they've got it under control. Well, just look at their gym schedule. They might be spending two or three hours at the Y or they're basically obsessed and compulsive about their body image and what they're doing to control what they can eat.
You know, I've known runners over the years that I'm running a marathon on Saturday, so I'm just going to load up on carbs. And they I mean, it's like they're they're talking about the Christmas, Christmas or the Fourth of July. You can just see the fireworks going off in their brain. They're so excited to be able to gorge out on as many carbs as they want to. And that's just not normal.
You know, food is fuel. It's not. And we are supposed to enjoy it, but we're not supposed to go crazy like that, you know.
So so let's talk about some of the things that you now. Do you eat fruit or do you not eat any fruit either?
Once in a while I eat some berries and I measure them because I don't trust myself with portions when it comes to sweet foods. And I have five autoimmune diseases, so I'm very limited on what I can eat. There are three reasons that you eliminate food from your diet. And we have a pyramid and we say the base of the pyramid is addiction. So you remove all known psychoactive foods. And so we believe grains are psychoactive. You know, we get rid of the industrial seed oils or the the vegetable oils just because they're horrible for you anyway. And they eat and they do interfere with your body processing it and your metabolism and everything. And we get rid of all sugars. And sugar has over 70 different names, including natural sugars. And so that means honey and molasses and all that stuff goes as well, because your brain doesn't know the difference. It's a psychoactive substance to your brain. And for some people, their history contains opioids and different things that hook onto different parts of your brain. And so then you then you go to the second thing, and that's the health section. Do you have health issues? So say you have metabolic syndrome or you have diabetes or high blood pressure, autoimmune disease, whatever cancer, then you might want to be lower on the carbohydrate curve.
So then you might want to take out starchy vegetables. You might want to limit your carbs to around 20 to 30 total grams of carbs a day because of your health issues, not because of your addiction. And then you want to take out the things that don't align with your values. So that would be like your beliefs, like maybe you're Jewish and you maybe you're you don't want to eat pork or Muslim. You don't. You want to eat halal meats, so you so you eliminate things that way and then we say you should always have your food plan grow with you.
So we say if you have eaten a meal and you ate something on your meal and two hours later you feel hungry. There was a trigger on your plate. And so there's also trigger foods. And so for some people, fruit is a huge trigger, the one blueberry, and they're dead and they're thinking about sugar all day. That's not my story. You know, I have a lot of things eliminated because of my auto immunity. I'm pretty much carnivore most of the time. So I eat all kinds of animal protein, salt, a little spice now and again.
Fermented vegetables seem to be easier on my body than regular vegetables. So I'm limited anyway.
I never thought of immune issues. Do you have?
I have rheumatoid arthritis, Shogo and this disease. Renard's Celiac and psoriasis.
So Tuka now have you been able to keep those at bay with doing what you're doing? So like has the psoriasis gone and talked about?
My experience isn't completely gone. I'm literally I call myself an autoimmune nightmare. I cut autoimmunity since I was five years old and I'm sure it started with celiac, but we just didn't know it back then. And I'm Italian, raised in San Francisco. So I passed on, soured over, and that's what we ate. And so I had a horrible migraine headaches.
I had thick nails from psoriasis of the nails. And 10 years ago I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and I could hardly wipe my own ass for four, three years. And I was on four medications just for my rheumatoid, including 30 milligrams of prednisone every day for three years.
And I literally got the hairy face, the moonface, the and in the past two years, I've been off of all my medications more than I've been on them. I'm back on Humira right now. And I just think I'm probably going to have to stay on my Humaira, but I'm pretty happy I'm fifty five. I can move. I can do what I want, you know. And it all started with removing things from my diet that aren't healthy anyway. Going back to a pre historical diet, going back to a diet before we had agriculture and it helped so much. And then I found out I had celiac. That's how I got started.
I removed the gluten and it was like the Tin Man got oil. It was amazing. Like I could I could move so much more freely. And so I was able to taper off of the president and then I was able to get off of another medication that was keeping me from being able to enjoy the outdoors because I got sunburn in two seconds from from being on that medication. Joaquin El, it's a medication that was talked about a lot with our virus going on right now, you know, and then I was on seven tablets of methotrexate, which just made me sick to my stomach. My hair was falling out, lots of chemo, med, you know. And so a lot of these situations were, I think due to the way I ate, like I would have been a lot better off had I not been a sugar addict. And like I said, sugar is the primary or first drug. It's the gateway drug to all other drugs. And I'm also a recovering addict with thirty one years clean. And I started my drug use very young because all the emotions I had around getting teased about my nails and, you know, being a very scrawny kid picked last on the team. Of course, I was scrawny because of my celiac, but I didn't know that, you know, and so just all kinds of things. And plus my brain had already been hijacked. I remember bellying up to like three long tables. My mom worked for this huge law firm and were three long tables loaded with dessert. Like everybody in their firm brought all these desserts. And I remember eating till I thought I was going to vomit. I could not stop eating those desserts. I would go and play and I would think I'm going to go get another brownie.
You know, it was like I couldn't even enjoy this was on grounds outside of San Francisco that had playhouses and little it was like a magical fantasy land for kids. And all I could think about was the desert.
And I was like seven years old, you know, and how much sugar could I cram into my face? Because it changed the way I felt.
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So with the showgrounds syndrome, that's a disorder of your immune system. And mostly it's, you know, dry eyes. Dry mouth. Right.
Yes, that was your big tax system. Yes, definitely my eyes turned as red as my shirt and I was reading a book to my daughter and I couldn't my tongue was sticking to the top of my mouth and I was choking on food. I literally made no saliva. And to me, shoguns is like, it's one of those diseases that it's very uncomfortable. It's one that you notice, you know, and it affects your whole length system. So I do a lot of things like my trampoline. I have a sauna, you know, a lot of self care, things that help kind of shake up that system, dry brushing, that kind of thing. But I think I'm discovering what I can't eat in that, you know, get rid of the addictive foods, get. But for me, it was backwards because I did the I did the middle section first. Right. I did the health. And so I was eating like that. And what would happen is I would take a day off and I would think I was going to have one bite or just a little bit of sugar now. And I would like eat that one sour gummy while I'm the kind of addict that when I used drugs, I used yours. And then I didn't let you know about mine. So say me and my family went to the movies. I would buy my candy, I would eat theirs, and I wouldn't share mine, you know, and then the next day I would be completely flared up. And even knowing this was going to happen and that it was going to hurt me, I would continue to do this behavior because I wasn't taking it seriously. And I used to call myself like little funny names. Oh, I'm just a foodie. I'm a food junkie. I prided myself on my recipe collection and my ability to prepare these outstanding multi course meals. You know, I watch Food Network like some people watch porn, know it was it was really a crazy behavior looking back. And I ran across Bit Johnson in a video and I was like, wow, this makes sense because she's a recovering person who then found out she had sugar addiction. And the difference in my recovery and the difference in my clarity of mind, my serenity, my peace, my energy level, just waking up in the morning and knowing that for me, just as drugs are not an option for me today, sugar is not an option for me today. It hurts me. It damages me. I don't want to do harm to myself. And so being trained with her in holistic addiction medicine has been a game changer for my coaching practice as well. I have clients that literally are so much more compliant and changing their lives like crazy. In fact, on Piece of Quito, which is my YouTube channel, one of my clients read a letter that she wrote for her congregation. She's a Lutheran minister about her addiction and it is so powerful. And that was after using the Sugar Bowl with me.
So so let's talk about the lymphatic system, because it's it really is a central part of your immune system and it's also a really it it supports just a huge vital role in cancer prevention. So I have a friend who just recovered from breast cancer.
So we're always talking about, you know, lymph nodes and people sometimes people don't realize that you have a whole lymphatic system in your body and they don't really understand what it does.
It's your circulatory system, really, but it requires movement to circulate.
And so with Shogun's, it gets backed up or clogged up. And same thing with like when you have breast cancer, they oftentimes remove lymph nodes, which interrupts that circulatory system, and then they can get like the edema and swelling in their arms and that kind of thing. And I'm very surprised and pleasantly surprised that you even know anything about shoguns. Usually it's like speaking Greek to someone when you even bring up that disease. And it's a it's a very serious disease and your lymph system, one of the ways you can help it is movement. And so even weightlifting at that contraction helps move it. One of my favorites is a trampoline. Getting a mini indoor rebounder get a good quality one. That's not going to mess with your ankles. You know, I like the ones that have the wires rather than the bands because it's a little bit more stable for your ankles and 10 minutes a day even just light bouncing. You can get a BA if you're if you don't have your balance. And for me, it's given me back my ability to balance and strength in my feet, my ankles from my rheumatoid arthritis as well. So that's a huge bonus. I also have one of those plates that you can stand on that shakes the heck out of you.
And I love it. It energizes me in the middle of the day. And even if you don't have a lymphatic problem, it's not a bad practice to get into dry brush brushing, jumping, jumping jacks. If you don't want to have a tramp, you know, massage, soreness, self massage, you can even just do things like this is me in the shower, in my salon. Right. Just you're just moving your lymph fluid all towards your heart. And so this is where a lot of your waist is, is in your limp system. And I believe that's part of what the cancer causing aspect of your lymph system not being cleaned out, lymphoma, all those kinds of things, is you're getting a back up of junk in there. And sugar is food for cancer. You know, that's another thing to consider, that sugar is glucose in particular is one of cancer's only foods. It's something like 70 or 80 percent of cancer is fueled solely by glucose. So if I had cancer, I would go completely on to a ketogenic carnivore diet. And what that means is you eat enough protein to sustain your muscle and bone, but you eat so much fat that you're in a therapeutic level of ketosis. So you maintain your energy because that protein can turn into glucose as well. So you don't want to eat so much protein like some Coronavirus diets, you know, and I actually have friends that have survived cancer doing that cancer that they weren't supposed to survive. So, you know, food is truly medicine and it's it can be so healing. And the thing is, your brain heals when you remove addictive substances from your from your diet. And we say alcohol is liquid sugar. So there's no room in that pyramid either for for alcohol when you're an addict, because that's just going to trigger that same area of your brain. So we say stay away from all mood and mind altering substances, period, because again, one disease, many outlets and you don't want to you don't want to switch seats on the Titanic, as my friend David says. And I know you know, David, but what you're doing, you're switching ships on the Titanic. You know, you start your shopping addiction, you start you know, I'm talking about once you know you're an addict, then you have to, like, take responsibility for what are your behaviors. And it's not about willpower. It's about being willing to go through withdrawals. And if you do it once, you don't have to do it again, then you just have to do a daily program that keeps you safe from those from those trigger behaviors.
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Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about the lymph system a little bit more, because I think for me, this is it has helped me so much really understanding that my body relies on my lymphatic system to remove waste like bacteria, viruses, toxins, abnormal cells, and that can lead to cancer. And so I just really, you know, the things that I do all the time are I? I try to create a habit. I have the the vibrating plates, which I try to get on as at least five times a week, get in that sauna at least four or five times a week and get a massage at least two times a week. So let's talk a little bit about do you know the difference is between a sauna and an infrared sauna and kind of the how that helps your lymphatic system?
I think that a lot of that is just anecdotal. You know, there's no real science out there. I think anything that warms up and warms your temperature greater than you know than it was is going to be beneficial to your lymphatic system because it's going to help those everything kind of loosen up and flow a little better. And so, I mean, literally, I mean, if you can even just take a nice warm bath or warm bath and then dry brush before you get into the shower, that kind of thing, it's not everybody has the luxury of having a sauna. Although now you can ship out those. You're talking about infrared. You can buy a panel that you just sit in front and they are not expensive. And yes, it's very helpful to your system. And it is if people don't understand their bodies, that's part of what we're going to be doing at Sugarcoats Global is helping people understand their bodies and how they work because your body doesn't work like yours, your heart, and it's all by yourself. And here's this and it's all by itself now. It's a it's a whole ecosystem. And you actually have more cells in and on your body than you have that are your own bodies that we're going to be educating a lot. And I'm actually a primary health coach and a nurse and my husband's a cardiologist.
And we're going to have a segment called The Coach of the Cardiologists where people can actually ask questions about how their body works, because part of, I think, recovery from from dieting, from chronic dieting, recovery from anything, from autoimmunity, whatever, is beginning to have an understanding and basic concept of how your body works and your live system is kind of like the big garbage removal system of your body, but it starts even smaller than that. You know, each cell has tiny little cells called Liposomal that are kind of the trashmen of your body. And on a cellular level, the better your body works because you're eating more nutrient dense foods, you're well hydrated, you're sleeping and moving properly. Then then you're talking about epigenetics. You can actually change your epigenetics. And so as your brain heals, that's part of what's happening. When you get rid of these processed foods and all of these things and health starts to return to your brain cells, your neurotransmitters, your neurotransmitters are largely made in your gut. So it's all tied together. So thinking of one system on its own is almost too myopic and small. And honestly, if you just remove the junk from you from what you're putting in your mouth, get a good night's sleep, do some breathing. I love this little tool because stress is huge, you know, and this is called the Relax Sader, and it slows your wrists down to like five or six per minute without thinking. I'll be sitting here. You know, emailing my clients, doing some paperwork or whatever, and I don't even have to think and I can I can decrease my cortisol, which is good for my system, you know, and you can get these on. It's called the relaxation, and you can get it on conscious breathing, and they also have, I think, the best sleep tape out there and sleep tape, you put it over your mouth. And if you just put your hand over your mouth right now and take a few breaths, you'll see that your diaphragm works better. Nasal breathing is so much more healthier and better for your immune system, and it helps you with your nitric oxide levels, which have a lot to do with your metabolism. And a lousy night's sleep can make your appetite increased by three hundred to six hundred calories. So there's another health thing that you can do for yourself the simple, inexpensive and increases your ability to even if you're even if you're just a harmful user and you want to lose those few pounds, it's like a quick little Biersack you can do that you don't even think about. And it just gets you into a deeper sleep in the hours between 10 and two, which tend to that's when you regulate your growth hormone. And that helps.
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