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208: Parasympathetic State, The Path To Better Brain Health, Better Gut Health, and Better Digestion! - with Dr. Sachin Patel!

February 24, 2020

Welcome back to the podcast! Today’s guest is Dr. Sachin Patel. Today we’ll learn:

* The two parts of the Autonomic Nervous System
* How to get better Sleep
* Focus more on how you eat and get your body in optimized digestion
* Helpful tips on how to get more SLEEP and why it’s so powerful
* Heart rate variability and how fasting increases HRV
* 5 steps on how to eat in a parasympathetic state

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[00:00:00] Hey, guys, welcome today's episode and we are here with Sachin Patel and he has the Living Proof Institute. And today we're talking about fight or flight and how to have better brain health, better gut health, better sex. We are talking about how to make everything better because one of the things he talked about before we started was when where we send flow is where we send function. So you're going to learn all about that today. Sachin, for people who don't know about you yet, please tell them a little bit about how you got started. [00:00:31][30.9]
[00:00:32] Sure. So I'll keep this brief so we can talk more to the viewers about the awesome content we have. [00:00:37][4.6]
[00:00:37] You know, I started off as a chiropractor working in a sports clinic, getting excellent results with athletes and, you know, ranging from your weekend warriors all the way up to Olympic gold medalists. And so the privilege of working with a spectrum of people who are relatively healthy. And one day I was on the news because we were helping people so much with elbow pain. And our practice was featured on TV. Well, lo and behold, what I thought was going to be the best day of my clinical practice ended up being something that was a great learning experience. And as people started calling the office and then coming in as patients, they were sicker than anyone else I'd ever met. So the patients that were coming in were the healthiest people in our communities. And overnight, basically, we started having some of the sickest people in our community start calling us. So I went from being on a high of thinking while on top of the world I can help people win gold medals. But then when somebody really needed to be helped and feel better and just be able to function normally and be there as a grandparent or a parent or a spouse, I couldn't help that person. And it was kind of a gutting feeling because I didn't know where to send them either. It's one thing if you can't help somebody, but not knowing where to send them because they've already tried everything else, you know, that's a gut wrenching feeling. It's kind of like when you can't help your child who's in pain because there's nothing you can do sometimes. And so that's what happened to me. And, you know, I'm two years into practice and I had a kind of an existential crisis. I'm like, what do I do? I can't help people. And if somebody that I love was in this position, there's nothing that I could offer them either. And so that's around the same time I started learning about functional medicine. And just like most things, when you learn something new, your mind expands, your paradigm kind of expands and the old paradigm kind of crumbles. I realized that I could have so much more of an impact in my community and actually make a difference, a much more significant improvement, a difference in somebodies life besides helping them run a little bit faster or throw a ball a little bit harder. I could make somebody become more functional as a human being. And so once I learned functional medicine, I never looked back. And, you know, I continued practicing structural chiropractic care, incorporating more and more functional medicine. And then in 2011, I eventually opened up the Living Proof Institute of all places, Cincinnati, Ohio. And the practice really took off. We had some amazing growth because we were getting awesome results with people. And fast forward a few years later, I moved back to Toronto and start another practice here. And fast forward from there. I retired from clinical practice. And now what I do is I help practitioners, you know, really change the paradigms of their practice from an operation standpoint, but also from a clinical standpoint. And I also get to talk to really cool people like you and your community sharing this information as far and wide as I can. [00:03:17][159.5]
[00:03:18] Well, you are doing an amazing job. And I think that one of the things people realize right now is that everyone realizes everyone's stressed. Right, like our stress levels as a society are so high. But I think that they kind of put the stress portion of the fight or flight response lower on the totem pole, so to speak. Like they'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah. Food allergies or. Yeah, yeah. All these other things. And they they think stress is a piece of it. But I think from what I've heard you talk about is that that is a way bigger issue than people are giving it credit for. [00:03:57][39.6]
[00:03:59] Yeah. You know, here's the thing. Like when this happens in practice all the time, like you can't go to a doctor who's more stressed out than you are and tell them about your stress. Right. Like your doctor is telling people they're going to die, like they've got a chronic disease, that there's nothing they can do for them. They've got people coming in who are like ranging from feeling, you know, hey, I'm fine. [00:04:21][22.2]
[00:04:21] I'm I'm here for regular checkup to people who are completely crippled or debilitated and addicted to medications. They're on 10 different drugs. So when you go to your doctor, like your problems might seem very small to them and they might even minimize them because of the tragic level of health that people are going in to see the doctor for. And, you know, stress is something that it's kind of an interesting paradox, because we actually become we're very resilient as human beings. Obviously, if you're listening to this, whatever happened to you hasn't killed you yet. And I can think of plenty of times I probably should have died because of the dumb stuff I've done. Right. And we all have stories like that. So. We're super, super resilient. [00:05:01][39.6]
[00:05:02] And that's our gift and our curse. If we treated our cars or our homes or our computers the way we treat our bodies right, nothing would last more than a couple of days. So the resilience that we have built into us, these 70 trillion cells fighting for life, this hologram of life, of cells that are dying and being reborn and every single moment. It's super resilient. So you have to ask yourself if I've got a new gut cells every three to seven days. Why do I still have G.I. issues? Well, you're sending those cells the same message, just like buying somebody a new car. Does it make them a better driver? Giving you brand new cells and sending them a stress signal is not going to make you healthier. So when when people's stress is fired up, then the critical systems for healing of repair, regeneration, reproduction, all of those systems shut down. And it's a highly intelligent and extremely well orchestrated response, but it's not intelligent to have that response firing all the time. A simple reminder I give people is when you go to the zoo, what are the animals doing? And everyone kind of looks around and like they're doing nothing. Exactly. Because their parasympathetic and being parasympathetic allows you to heal so much more deeply. The most parasympathetic thing that we do is sleep. And we know we have a sleep crisis. Most people can't even do that anymore. We also know that the average person since the invention of the light bulb sleeps three hours less than they used to. We went from 10 hours of sleep to seven hours of sleep. And I don't even know what the statistics are for. You know, after the cell phone was invented and devices were invented where no screens could come into our laps and right in front of our faces like this, that's never happened in human history. So I can only imagine how much less sleep people are getting and the quality of their sleep is not as good. So the very thing that makes us super ultra rare earths sympathetic, which is sleep, we can't even do that anymore. I mean, tens of millions of Americans and Americans have sleep disorders. Right. So when somebody has a sleep disorder, they have they have a disorder of being able to become parasympathetic. And it's the basically one of the steps that leads to chronic health issues. Because how well you sleep is how well you heal. And so if you can't do that properly, then your healing is going to be compromised. But then the rest of your day also matters if you're easily triggered, if your nervous system is just fired up all the time and you're watching television and you're getting the all of these things, you know, embedded into your mind that the world's coming to an end every week. There's something else that's going to bring the world to a tragic end. And you're why are your nervous system to be agitated by all this information, negative information that you're being bombarded with? You should have a stress response. You should be sympathetic, dominant. You should have bad digestion. You should have high blood pressure. You should have reproductive issues. You should have brain fog. You should be making bad decisions because based on where you're sending blood flow, I expect that to happen. So when somebody comes in to the office and says, hey, my blood pressure is high, my cholesterol is high, my sleep sucks, I. My digestion is not that great. You know, I get heartburn by you know, my detox is not good. I'm retaining all this fluid. I'm sensitive. I have allergies. My great. Your body is perfect. That's exactly what I should be doing when it's stressed out. Right. So very those system should be shutting off. [00:08:27][205.7]
[00:08:29] I'd like for you to share the picture that you were showing me earlier before we got started. You is so amazing. And I think that if you if you guys are listening to this right now on the podcast, I really would love for you to go to our YouTube channel and actually look at this, because this is super, super powerful and it just explains things so well. [00:08:55][26.6]
[00:08:57] All right. So let me give people a visual. There is a picture of a brain at the top. And then from that brain, we see a spinal cord. And off that spinal cord, we see all these little what we call sympathetic chain ganglia. And firing off those little ganglia is like a little chain is a nerve that goes to all the different organs in our body. Now, let me let me just kind of give people a stress, one or one talk here. So this is familiar to you. Then listen to it anyways, because you might pick up something new. So all also all stress is basically a result of information coming from the brain, in particular a part of the brain called the amygdala, which is the decision making center of the brain. It has to decide if the sensory information that's coming in or smell the sounds, touch, taste what we see like all that stuff is coming into the brain. And the brain has to decide, is this going to be a fight or flight situation or is everything OK? So we have this built in survival mechanism, this servo mechanism that is constantly surveying our environment. And comparing the environment and the sounds in the sense to our past experiences, our beliefs and our values. So an example would be if a lion were to walk into this room from the corner of my eye, I would see the lion that would go into this part of my brain and the amygdala would decide based on what my beliefs and values are, that this is going to kill me. And it would immediately send a signal down the spinal cord to all the organs and start pumping out fight-or-flight chemicals. And those chemicals go to every single cell, every single organ in our body and tell that system you've got to be prepared for a fight or flight. So your liver that was detoxing now stops detoxing because it's taking up all this blood flow that is not necessary for survival. Your digestive system shuts down. There's an 80 percent decrease in blood flow to your digestive system when you're under stress. So guess what? That blood that was going to those organs now goes to your arms and legs. And in order for that to happen, your blood pressure has to go up. OK. Otherwise, how are we gonna get the blood to our fingertips and toes? If there isn't enough pressure. Our kidneys shut down. Reproductive organs start shutting down because none of those things are actually going to allow me to survive the lion. That's right there now. Only after that happens. Does my prefrontal cortex get the information that there is a lion there. [00:11:21][144.4]
[00:11:22] So we're always reacting to our values, beliefs and experiences when people say they're reacting to stress. It's actually not the stress, because if your belief system was that the lion is not going to kill me. Right. So if a 2 year olds in the room, they see the lion, they're going to run towards a lion. Not because they have a different nervous system, but because they have a different value system. OK, so between the age of 0 and 8 is when the majority of our limbic programing takes place. What we should fear. How we should react. What's going to kill us? A lot of that happens when at a very young age before we can even understand what it even means. So we might see our mom react to a spider. OK, and it freaks her out. And guess what? It's programed in our mind that we should freak out when we see a spider. [00:12:10][48.1]
[00:12:11] And then we have this unconscious pattern that's built into our minds. And the amygdala is doing something that we've been trained. We've trained it to try to protect us. Now, one thing I caution parents on very, very importantly is be careful how you act in front of your kids and what you say in front of your kids. Because before the age of 5, they're left and right brain is not connected. So they can see what's happening, but they can't make sense of why it's happening and what the interpretation of that information is, because they don't have a fully developed prefrontal cortex. So what you see in front of your kids is actually very, very important. And also, be careful what they watch on television if you ever watch a child watching television. They're basically in a trance and they have this information coming into their brain, which we as adults can process and make sense of, but they can't. And so they essentially don't have that ability to filter what is right, what's real, what's wrong, what makes sense, what doesn't make sense. They just believe anything that comes into the brain up to the age of five. And then, you know, so these are things that we want to be extremely mindful. If you ever watch your child watching television, they're in a trance, aren't they? Like, they're basically like no matter how much how much you scream at them, you can't get their attention because they're being programed rights called television programing for a reason. So from that young age, we can embed what people should be fearful of. And and I guess what, we can trigger them as adults. So what if I make somebody scared of something as a child? I can trigger that same response because the limbic brain is what's releasing that stress response chemical. And that stress response in the body, it's deciding not the prefrontal cortex. So a lot of people are constantly fighting their physiology all day, trying to manage stress. So they use yoga to manage stress. They use, you know, taichi and she kong. and breathing. Well, that's like starting a fire and then having a really good fire extinguisher. How about we just not start the fire in the first place? Right. How about we go a couple of layers deeper and figure out what's triggering us so we're not constantly spending time, energy and effort fighting our nervous system all day. So. Well, we do it. And what I encourage people to do is go a few layers deeper. And, you know, you can measure yourself, you can measure things like HIV, you can measure and HIV is heart rate variability. This will tell me the tone of your nervous system. You can use breathing to re tone a fire nervous system. So sometimes we'll have people do breathing exercises before they eat because they can use the breath to stimulate this next part of the slide, which is the vagus nerve. And when we stimulate the vagus nerve, we tell our body that, hey, everything is safe and we're gonna go into a rest, digest, repair, reproduce and regenerate type of state in our body. And not just one organ goes into that state every. Oregon goes into that state. So if I can master my breath or if I can get in tune with my breathing or if I can find other ways to stimulate my vagus nerve, guess what? That's a way to heal. Every single cell system and organ in your entire body. So the way the body works is the same blood goes everywhere. So it's not like you're gonna have one system of your body that's on high alert and another system of your body that is in interresting state. Your entire system's healing or your entire system is in fight or flight. And so when people come to us, you know, one of the things we focus on, a really simple example, Shantelle, you know, speaking of fasting and food and stuff like that, you know, people ask us, what should I eat? And we tell them about wrong question. The first question you should be asking is how long should I not be eating for? Because fasting is so powerful for us. And when you decide to eat, the question should be not what do I eat, but how should I eat? Most people are so focused on what they eat that they're not focused on how they eat. And so they go through diet after diet after diet. And they don't never they never really proper assimilate properly, assimilate the healthy organic foods and GMO free foods that they're eating because they're eating under chronic stress. They don't chew their food enough. They don't extract enough nutrition from it. And they're not sending blood flow to the very area that they need the most blood flow to, which is their digestive organ, their stomach, their pancreas or liver. [00:16:20][249.5]
[00:16:21] You know, the small, large intestine, you to send blood there if you want those organs to function. That's why your mom tells you not to swim after you eat because you're going to get a stomach cramp. And the reason you get a cramp is because your body's fighting to try to send blood to the gut. But your outward demands are to send blood to the arms and legs and your body's fighting to try to figure out where to send that blood to. So if you're going to eat, you know, get your body in a state where it can optimize digestion if you're going to go for a run. And we don't want blood going to your stomach. Why would we want blood going there? We want it go into your arms and legs. So we call that autonomic pairing, Perry or nervous system with function that you're trying to undergo. For example, if you're in fight or flight, you're not gonna be able to sleep. I shouldn't be surprised by that. Right. It just makes perfect sense when you look at the body through this lens and you realize very quickly why most people's health strategies fail, because they're stressed out about getting healthy and that's impossible to actually do. [00:17:18][56.9]
[00:17:20] That is such a nugget. I love what you just said right there, and I want to repeat it so that people you can go ahead and start. Do you want to keep sharing that? I can turn it off. Sure. OK. Not unless used are still. Yes. I think we're good. OK. I love what you just said right there. And I want to repeat it because I think it's so valuable. But I think it's so true that you do need to focus more on how you're eating. Obviously, you want to put good food in your body, but if you're focusing more on how you're eating and getting your body into to digestion, because I know for me what I used to do was I used to use food when I was stressed. So before I started fasting, that's one of the things I love about fasting so much, is that it taught me to understand true hunger versus hunger when I was emotionally stressed out. And so what people do is they are stressed out. Now they're running to a pan of brownies. Now they're eating it so fast because they're they're not using it for a true hunger. [00:18:23][63.6]
[00:18:24] They're using it because they need to calm down. They need to know they're using it for other than true hunger. And so now, like you said. Now the body is taking so long to be able to process that food and be able to digest it because you're in fight or flight. [00:18:42][18.0]
[00:18:43] Well, you know, we have a reflex that initiates a parasympathetic response when we chew. So the active eating actually attempts to shift us into a parasympathetic state. But if we don't deal with the emotions that are coming up or the void that's creating that stressor, then, yeah, we're just going to keep eating. And we're not we're going to feel unsafe created when cortisol is up eating something with sugar. [00:19:09][26.5]
[00:19:10] And it actually lowers your cortisol because cortisol is main job in your body is to raise blood sugar. Now, I'm not suggesting that people go and start eating something sweet, but it's it seems counterintuitive. But the reason you crave something sweet is because it's going to actually help you bring your cortisol levels down. And when you bring cortisol down, you bring blood sugar down. Now, another thing that goes back to childhood is a lot of parents will use food to shut their kids up or they'll use foods to show their kids how much they love them. And they typically use, for whatever reason, junk food to show their kids how much they love them. So guess what? When you're an adult and your limbic brain is is making all the decisions for you, then you're going to crave those foods that are your comfort foods, because that's what made you feel good when you were a child. Right. A lot of stuff. What a trauma that we deal with is childhood trauma that is unresolved. [00:20:00][50.7]
[00:20:01] And because ah ah, limbic brain is not a higher processing center. It's a very rudimentary processing center. We can't necessarily see that and work with that at a conscious level. So for some people, that's why hypnotherapy worked so well. For some people, that's why plant medicines can work well, because it helps them come face to face with their with their fears. When you come face to face with your fears, you're coming face to face with your limbic system. [00:20:25][23.1]
[00:20:27] I want to repeat back what you said. Just because when you say something that really kind of everyone it's like a ding, ding, ding, everyone needs still listen to that. That is so powerful. And I did not know that that sugar reduces levels of cortisol, the stress hormone. And so when you're stressed, that's why you maybe are craving something sweet. [00:20:46][19.9]
[00:20:48] And, you know, if you think about it, what would have been sweet to us, you know, hundreds of years ago would be something like fruit. Right. It wouldn't be like something processed in junkie like we now. And you know, the other thing, too, is, you know, usually if you're a hunter gatherer or after a stressful event in your life, there is usually some sort of celebration involved. [00:21:09][21.4]
[00:21:09] Right. So if you're if your tribe was recently attacked, then you're releasing all this cortisol and then you guys win afterwards, there's a celebration that takes place afterwards. So one of the things that can also help is getting people to be more grateful. Right. Getting people to be more present and aware with their feelings and understand, you know, how they're using food, perhaps, or how they're using their emotions to cope with what's coming up for them. [00:21:34][24.5]
[00:21:35] Yeah. And I love what you said about sleep and how it's so powerful in in getting your body to rest. And so let's talk about what are some things that you've practical ways that you've seen people really take their sleep, getting better, REM sleep, getting better deep sleep and allowing them to sleep longer. Can you give us some tips? [00:21:56][21.2]
[00:21:57] Sure. So just so everyone knows, I actually normally have a ring on my ring is charging on. I see that. So you're keeping track of your deep sleep and REM sleep and also, you know, your movement and sleep and wake time. [00:22:10][12.4]
[00:22:10] So, you know, in all honesty, in all transparency, one thing that typically pops up for me on my sleep is interruption. And I sleep with my son and. And most nights I sleep in bed with him. My wife is a very light sleeper, so she enjoys sleeping by herself. And, you know, whenever we can, we'll sleep together. But most nights I sleep with my son and he's he's 9 now. So you can imagine he's you know, you've you've met him. So, yeah, he's around. He moves around. And so my sleep does get interrupted. But I'm willing to deal with that because I get to sleep with him. I don't know how much longer that's going to last. So. So that's my one thing that I need to work on with sleep. I know have noticed that when I drink a red tea with ratib Mushroom Minute before I go to bed, that makes a big difference for me. I've also noticed if I wear blue blocking glasses, then that seems to make a difference for me. [00:23:03][52.5]
[00:23:04] And I've also noticed you wear those glasses during the day like. Or how long? When do you wear them? [00:23:09][5.2]
[00:23:09] So you know, like my my lenses right now actually have a blue blocking filter in them. And then so I'm always wearing something because I'm on the computer, probably more than more than I care to admit. But that's where a lot of my work takes place in the evening when the sun goes down, that's when that's we're going to put on my my nighttime glasses. So typically we want to try to pattern our circadian rhythm with the sun. That's what we would be doing. That's what all the animals are doing is their patterning, their behavior with with not a watch, but they're doing it with the sun. So as much as possible, you want to minimize overhead light exposure in the evenings. So what that means is when the only time in nature that light would be coming from the top would be during the day right when the sun goes down. There's a sunset and then all the light would be coming kind of at eye level. So you can kind of create that in your home by turning off the overhead lighting and using lamps with shades, perhaps even using candle light. Candlelight only decreases melatonin about 2 to 5 percent, according to my friend Thaddeus Ohan, and traditional lighting lowers it about 40 percent. So when you lower melatonin, then you significantly impair deep healing to take place. Now, one other thing about melatonin is melatonin is antagonist to cortisol. So when your body produces melatonin, it actually binds to the adrenals and shuts off cortisol production. But if you're exposed to light, especially overhead light, you're not creating a signal in your pineal gland to start releasing more melatonin. So the lighting in our home and the angle of the lighting actually makes a big difference. Campfires and candle lights, very little do they even moonlight. Very little has very little impact on melatonin. But artificial lighting has a significant impact. What bulbs should people use? I recommend whenever possible tungsten bulbs, which were the original light bulbs that we Thomas Edison invented. And so if you use those, those are going to be a warmer color temperature. Keep them dim. And then if you have your if you're watching TV or on your computer, then I recommend either an app called Iris for your computer or something called Flux. And that's going to take some of the blue light out of your screen. You can get Iris or twilight. for your phone as well. So again, I'm not condoning you. Use the phone because some people's phones, regardless of what color their screen is, they're stressfull information on their right. So they might be stressed out by their timeline or their email or their credit card bill. I don't know. So it's not just the color of your screen, but it's what's on the screen that matters, too. So that will be something to take into consideration. And then, you know, I use essential oils. I like lavender. And then one of my favorite oils is made by one of our mutual friends. Jodi Cohen and it it's called parasympathetic, and I put that on my mastoid because that oil will also help me get more parasympathetic. So those are some of the things that I do before going to bed at night. And, you know, in trying to balance my sleep and get deeper sleep and I've noticed the last thing sorry, I should mention this one thing that I've been doing recently that's been made a big difference, it's increased my deep sleep by half an hour each night I've used it is a magnesium oil. So it's a it's it's not oily or greasy or anything, but it's typically called a magnesium oil. And I have I use five sprays on the inside of my elbow. So on my forearm area, on both sides, the back of my knees and then five sprays on my abdomen. And I just kind of gently, very gently, just rub it in and it gets absorbed. And it has made a big difference for me. So that's something that I want to share, too. [00:26:45][215.8]
[00:26:46] Awesome. I was just going to ask you that. So this is my my ordering. And basically I usually get about an 80 to 85 on the score of this thing. And I. The total sleep is about I got seven hours and thirty five minutes. So that's about what I'm getting each night is somewhere between seven minutes, seven hours and 30 and eight hours. But always under the restfulness, it says pay attention. And then my REM sleep is usually always good. But my deep sleep is always in the red. So the two things that are always in the red for me are. And it's I mean, this is almost every night I get this exact same score. It's crazy. I'm like, I'm always around 80 to 85. My everything is in the nice green or whatever it's called. And then the restfulness always says, pay attention. And my deep sleep is always in the red. So maybe I'll try anything for the restfulness. [00:27:47][61.2]
[00:27:48] I'll try that magnesium oil for the deep sleep. Anything for the restfulness that you can think of that I could do. [00:27:55][7.1]
[00:27:56] Well, that's the thing. That's the only thing that comes right for me now is the restfulness. And I attribute it to for me at least, that I I always toss and turn. Maybe that's a limiting belief and I'm just kind of repeating myself. Right. But I that's I for as long as I can remember, I have never slept through the night. Never. So it's rare for me. [00:28:17][21.5]
[00:28:18] And I've always kind of been envious or curious about how do you put your head down on the pillow and then not wake up in the middle of the night and you wake up and you're like, oh, my God, it's 8 o'clock. Like I slept in. Like, that's never happened to me. So. So I'm always kind of jealous of people who could do that or I should say, curious about how people can do that. But I have noticed that when I sleep by myself, I tend to have better, less interrupted sleep. So that's one thing that that I can say. And that's not a slight against my son or my wife. It just when you have your own space, you tend to you tend to get deeper sleep. And I've also found that the timing of my meals can make a difference as well. So, you know, sometimes I won't have that three hour window before I go to sleep. And but I'll see it on my or a ring that it'll throw me off a little bit. So, you know, and then the time of year can make a difference, too. [00:29:14][56.2]
[00:29:15] Yeah, that the funny thing is when I notice my for my restfulness, the time that my restfulness is good is when I start doing a longer fast. Let's say I start let's say I did like a two day or a three day fast. The first day I did a fast. [00:29:33][17.7]
[00:29:34] My sleep is not good, but that second day it really is. And so that's when my restfulness will get a lot better. So thank you so much for being with us on the show today. This was absolutely amazing. Tell listeners where they can find you and where they can follow you. [00:29:51][17.4]
[00:29:52] Well, thank you. I was actually looking for my own or a ring score. [00:29:55][2.7]
[00:29:55] So I wanted to show you. Let me see. Lycee, I wanted to show you something that was kind of cool that happened while I was doing my. I did. [00:30:03][7.5]
[00:30:03] I just recently last week I did a five day fasting mimicking diet. And it was kind of interesting to see, you know, the transition that took place. So you can see here. Me see? This was when I was at Terry Walls event. I was speaking there, so I was out of it. I was in Houston or is in Austin, rather. And so my sleep was I really throw it off because of that. But then I started my fast. [00:30:30][27.4]
[00:30:32] This was Sunday and then I started my fast. And you can see how much my HIV went up every single day I was fasting. It continued to go up. And then when I started eating again, you can see that it went down. [00:30:41][9.8]
[00:30:42] Wow. So it just shows you the power of of fasting and how how a brain. [00:30:48][5.7]
[00:30:49] Can you explain what a heart rate variability means for people who don't know what that is? [00:30:53][4.7]
[00:30:54] Sure. I'll give them the elevator spiel on HIV. So heart rate variability is the variability between each heartbeat. So if your heart beats 60 beats per minute, each beat isn't exactly one point 0 0 0 seconds apart. [00:31:08][13.6]
[00:31:09] Each beat has a slight variation to it. Now, when you're under stress, your heart's going to be beating very consistently. But when you're in a relaxed state, your heart's going to be beating kind of like there's gonna be a little bit of less consistency and it's gonna be more variation. It's very minor, it's imperceptible, but a computer can pick it up. So that slight variability is going to be an indication that you're more parasympathetic. And so HIV is a great measurement for resilience. It's a great measurement to see what's left in the gas tank. And so over that period of time, my body became more resilient and that as I started eating right, because food makes us less resilient, because when we eat, our immune system has to respond and react to every single morsel of food we eat creates an immune response. Right. Whether that response is positive or negative is to be determined based on what it's programed into our immune system. But if I send a million people to the border, right, I start the process, a million people at the border, even if they're all like, you know, good, good citizens and they all get through. But if there's a few bad cats in there, then, you know, obviously there's gonna be trouble. So every time we eat, we decrease our resilience because we're putting our body on the defense as opposed to being on the offense when we don't eat, when we're not eating, our body doesn't have to worry about digesting and detoxing and eliminating. It's focused on all the other billions of things that it needs to do to get us healthy. [00:32:34][85.6]
[00:32:35] Mm hmm. So tell us about the fasting mimicking diet that you tell us a little bit about what your experience was. Give us the details on what you did for it. [00:32:45][10.3]
[00:32:46] So it's put on by on. And what they do is they put together a five day kit and each day you have each of the meals kind of. And some of them are freeze dried or, you know, dehydrated foods and soups. [00:32:58][12.2]
[00:32:59] And you get specific timing of each of those meals. So breakfast, lunch and dinner, and then you skip out on the breakfast a few days and it's calorie restricted. It's all plant based. It's vegetarian and or vegan, rather. And you take a multivitamin, you take a algal oil with it as well. And you're basically going to from eleven hundred calories to I believe about 500 calories per day. And it gets you the benefits like when you tell somebody to fast for five days, that's pretty difficult for them to do, right? Or mentally it's difficult. And depending on when those perfect five days are for people, it may not even be possible. But this allows them to allows us to eat. And so we feel like we're getting going through the motions of eating and not missing food so much and not stressing out about it so that we can have it. But then we're getting the biological benefits of not having to eat. So it's kind of a the best of both worlds, so to speak. And Valter Longo has done a whole bunch of research on this, that by showing positive benefits in so many different areas of people's lives. [00:34:01][62.0]
[00:34:02] So what were the benefits that you found for yourself like after you were done with it? What? Yeah, well, my HIV lab. Yeah. [00:34:09][6.8]
[00:34:09] Yeah. Like when you're HIV goes up, that's like you shifting into more of a parasympathetic state. Right. So when HIV goes up, everything goes up. Right. When HIV increases every single cell in, your body's functioning better. Because it's getting a healing and regenerative signal going to it. [00:34:28][18.6]
[00:34:29] Yeah. Anything. One last question. What? [00:34:31][1.8]
[00:34:31] Anything else that you think that people could do right before their eating to get themselves into that parasympathetic state? And even while they're eating things that they can actually do to get themselves to slow down, to calm down? [00:34:48][16.7]
[00:34:50] Well, a couple of things that I'll say that jump out at me. One. We have an acronym for this for digestion is choose to chill, Cherice, check. So you have to choose that again. Say that again. [00:34:59][9.4]
[00:35:00] Sure. I'll go through it. So it's cashews to chill. Cherish and check. So first you got to choose the foods that are that are in alignment with the goal that you're trying to accomplish. Right. With your health. You've got to choose how you feel about that food. Right. We live in the first time in human history where people complain about eating healthy. So you can't eat something healthy and feel like you're punishing yourself. You have to be in a positive state and positive mood about that food. You've got to chew that food because we don't do that food. You can't break open the cell wall that actually allows you to digest that meal, especially plant based foods. [00:35:35][35.9]
[00:35:36] You have to chill's you've got to be in a relaxed state. Usually if you're with your friends hanging out, like get off your email or get off your phone, you know, get away from the TV, like do something that relaxes you. You can do some deep breathing. You can use your heart math for a few minutes before hand if you want. [00:35:50][14.1]
[00:35:51] Like I said, you can use the essential oil on the mastoid process called parasympathetic. It's clove and lime oil. So if you don't have that oil, you can use cloven lime oil and put that on the mastoid process on each side. And then you've got to cherish you've got to be grateful and be mindful and be very happy that you've got this amazing, healthy, delicious meal that was prepared for you or you prepared it yourself, whichever one it is that you're going to eat and it's going to nourish your body. And then the last part of that is check. So every day you should at least take a quick peek in the toilet, make sure there's no blood. There's nothing obscure like your foods being digested. There's no undigested lettuce in there because that tells me you're not chewing your food properly. And then at least once or twice a year, you want to get a functional stool test, because that's going to tell us more about what's happening at a microscopic level. [00:36:37][46.2]
[00:36:38] I love it. Well, thank you again, you ask. Every time I talk to you, I get more and more wisdom. So tell listeners where they can find you and where they can follow you. [00:36:48][10.1]
[00:36:49] Sure. Well, I appreciate that. So the first thing I'll place I send everybody is a program we have called 30 ways in 30 days and the website is 3 0 I and 3 0. [00:36:59][10.2]
[00:37:02] Or work or G. [00:37:03][1.4]
[00:37:04] And so when they go there, they're they'll get a free 30 day program that basically shares my three best tips. So if you like this information, the style of information where it's raw, it's real. Then you get that for 30 straight days. It's absolutely free. Our objective with that program is to keep you out of our office. And so we're gonna do whatever it takes to make that happen. And that program is a way for us to be able to do that and say that website one more time. [00:37:25][21.2]
[00:37:26] Schertz 30 in 30. Dot org 3 0 I and 3 0 dot 0. Archie. [00:37:31][5.8]
[00:37:33] Awesome. Thank you so much for being with us. And if you have a question that you want answered questions at Shantelle Railway dot com. We'll see you next time. Bye. [00:37:33][0.0]

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